General Discussion

06-06-2020, 09:01 AM

Paul Comey | Best jacking point on wings?

What is the best placement for wing jacks. Is it as close to the most inboard as the gear allows or does it not really matter so mid way is fine?

06-07-2020, 08:58 PM

Tony Jurcan | Jack points

My jack points are at around 48" from fuselage. I built in an aluminum bar under the third rib flush with the bottom of the skin. The jack point block bolts into this bar and extends under the main spar where the jack point is located.

I purchased air operated hydraulic jacks from harbor freight to jack up the plane. pictures attached

05-29-2019, 02:41 PM

mike reibling | Close call

I am wondering if anyone know anything about exhaust systems for the Seawind?

I purchased one second hand but never used. I have put 70 hours on it and a pipe broke off about 3 inches from the cylinder head. I was very lucky it didnt start a fire. Anyway i was wondering if anyone might have some idea if this one an isolated insistent or is there more information available on this?

Mike Reibling

10-08-2014, 07:47 AM

Mike | In flight fires

In-flight fires

Now that the dust has settled, let's try to figure out what we can do to make these planes safer. Since there is a lack of a good poh (pilots operating handbook) for this plane I would like to focus this thread on in-flight fires and what can be done to prevent them....and if there is a fire, how to land safely.

We all know there have been several accidents over the years. We need to learn from them and try to figure out solutions for some of these issues that caused the accidents. By no means should you be discouraged by them. After all, if you check the FAA website stats, you will find several accidents daily. Because we have low numbers flying, the rate seems greater. Don't be discouraged!

Please add your comments and thoughts no matter how trivial or stupid you think they might be. Someone else is thinking the same thing and wants an answer!

I am going to add the disclaimer here: The following are suggestions and are not to be used as concrete answers to the issues that follow. Each situation is different and needs to be handled specifically as the issue arises. The following is a group discussion and not to be used for anything other than a discussion. With that being said.....

There should be two parts to this thread.

1- What can be done to prevent an in-flight fire?


2- What could be done if there is an in-flight fire?

Above all a great, not a good, preflight should Include a fondling of the engine compartment innards. I have created a pre-flight checklist of approximately 57 items that I go thru before each flight. Taking your time and checking the entire plane is important..!!

1- What can be done to prevent in flight fires? Whether your plane was built by the book or some variation of the book it really doesn't matter. The fact remains that in flight fires do happen. In my opinion the areas that need to be looked at closely is the engine and accessory compartment. Loose fittings and chaffing of the fuel line can cause problems.

When I rebuilt N20W eight years ago I decided to paint the inside of the plane with an intumescent paint. About now your asking yourself; what the hell is that? It is a paint that resists fire. Contego is one manufacture I chose because with an eight of an inch of paint it will give me a two hour burn time. It is a latex based paint that is easy to apply and does not off gas toxic fumes. I believe this would be great for the engine and accessory compartments.

After some thought this weekend a few other items come to mind.

A- A camera in the accessory compartment or the tail.

B- Temperature sensors set to 300* and 600* with LEDs and a horn in the cockpit.

C- Replace the aluminum fuel line from the dual pumps in the tunnel (rear of plane) to the engine with braided half inch (#8 or #10) fuel line.

D- Possibly sleeve the entire fuel line with fire sleeve to prevent chaffing. This would be over the braided fuel line. Another thought is to close both ends of the sleeve with fire caulk and vent the sleeve to the Pylon so that if there is a rupture the fuel would be sucked out of the sleeve to the outside. This might allow the engine to keep operating while there is a leak.

E- Fire suppression system.

2- What could be done if there is an in-flight fire? I believe the school of thought is to turn off all fuel to the engine or electrical components and then dive to put the fire out.

I have typically been flying at around 3,000 feet when flying between NY- Florida and back. Mainly because the winds are usually never good along my route of flight. The other reason is because below 3,000 feet I will be require to say hi to all the airports enroute. So now I am thinking 5-7,000 feet from now on so I can have a little more time before landing should I run into issues.


11-07-2014, 05:52 PM

Mike | Knock, knock, knock

Anyone out there? You all sleeping?

I am currently sitting outside the terminal at kswf waiting for my bag to get here by the jet blue flight from Orlando. This all started three days ago. Last night the jet blue whimps decided to leave Orlando to ny however they didn't want to land because of some weather. What they hey. Those big boys (girls) didn't want to land with 600 ft and 2sm in fog. Bet they would if they were flying a Seawind. 😜

08-05-2014, 04:00 AM

Russ Kotlarek | Rotation without wings or an elevator ???

Long ... long .... long !! overdue I have been able to make numerous taxi tests with the new engine on my Seawind. at that 90% done 90% to go mark it has become increasingly clear to me exactly what that means. Especially in the way I have been doing it.

Cooling which was one of the largest concerns seemingly is going well. Not able to reach Red line with numerous long runs on the ground it was pleasing to finally have something go so well. (So Far)

The most entertaining and surprising run was a higher speed run down the ramp in which the nose came about a foot off the ground. No Elevator, Wings, or Rudder attached I had tied the canopy open about a foot to keep me cool and as I made the run up to about 40 and relaxed the power to my sheer surprise the canopy lifted me and the front of the aircraft up about a foot in the air for about 50 feet.

Nice to have an aircraft so anxious to fly it makes its first attempt without wings! LOL

Large tasks still to be completed include the Engine Cowl, final capping of the wings, full tuning of the engine, and so on. All have already been fitted but it will still be longer than expected to get it in the air.

I have no idea of the balance yet but it appears the estimate of being as much as 300 lbs less and at 330 hp could be a reality. I will keep everyone posted as the final answers become more in stone.

Russ Kotlarek

10-01-2013, 08:07 PM

Allen Low | Advice for New Seawind Pilot

Hi all

Im new to the Seawind world.

Im looking for a used Seawind and am looking for advice:

1) Tips on what to look for when purchasing one.

2) If I find a good one, an experienced Seawind mechanic who can do a prepurchase inspection

3) An experienced Seawind instructor to give me some dual.

Any help is greatly appreciated

(I have an ATP and a lot of flight time, but not in a Seawind)


Allen Low

San Francisco CA

10-04-2013, 11:49 AM

Ed Lynch | Welcome!

Dear Allen,

Welcome to the Seawind community! Nice bunch of guys (and gals)!

When you start looking at Seawinds, you will soon realize they are all quite different, even in their sameness. You will certainly be able to find a "good" one, because there are many, but as far as I know, no two are really the same. So what you need-like-want to spend-will play a big part in your choice. I am getting ready to retire from flying, and so my Seawind will be on the market sometime soon, and you are welcome to come fly it. It was built "by the book" with only a few additions, and no real changes from the original plans. Ed

10-04-2013, 04:36 PM


Ed does have a nice plane! Ed also has many hours in his seawind and would be a good person to contact for a purchase as well as flying.

If you need help with a pre-buy or have other questions.....I can also help. A good a&p and one of us can do wonders.

05-05-2014, 03:27 PM

Mike | Welcome Aboard Alan Little

I'm a Canadian Commercial Licence and FAA Licence Pilot.

I'm a Mechanical Engineer we do design build Hospitals and Pharmaceutical facilities. I started flying at 15, I have owned 21 airplanes over the past 40 years that I have used for business and pleasure.

I currently own a Lake and a Twin Comanche, I spread my time between Toronto Canada and Davenport Florida, Canadians are allowed 181 days per calendar year.

I'm approaching 6800 hours total time, 3100 are in Lakes.

I'm seriously looking for a Seawind to use in Florida, I have my Lake in Winterhaven and we travel to the Bahamas and the Keys to visit with friends and I don't land the Lake in salt water, would like the speed and flexibility that the Seawind would provide for these trips.

I have followed the Seawind since the original first flew. I feel joining the association would help fill in additional information prior to my purchase and possibly give access to a better pool of potential aircraft early in their sale offering.

Best Regards


05-05-2014, 03:29 PM

Mike | Welcome Alan

Welcome Alan to the group. Feel free to ask questions as there are many great seawind owners on this site.

Feel free to contact me since I am in and out of Florida all the time.

02-16-2014, 12:03 AM

Tom Saccio | Paul Marshall

I received a phone call from Pam Marshall today. Pam is Paul Marshall's wife. She told me that Paul passed away on Jan 28th. He was a great friend to the Seawind community. He helped me many times when I was building my plane. He will be greatly missed. Rest in Peace Paul.

02-16-2014, 08:11 PM

tthunne | Paul Marshall

I also talked to Paul many times soliciting his advice which was exceptional. He had much to say regarding the differences between the kit and certified version.

He was using a variety of supplements to keep his cancer at bay and they apparently worked well for some time. I will miss him as a friend and a source of valuable advice.

Tom thunnell

02-19-2014, 07:55 AM


Although I did not know Paul, any friend of the Seawind community that passes will be greatly missed. Our thoughts and prayers will be with him and the family.

02-21-2014, 02:51 PM

keithw | Paul Marshall

Dear Pam In all the Seawind Comunity Paul is one of my most TREASURED persons. May God Bless Him and you Pam. Keith Walljasper N80CC

02-23-2014, 07:35 AM

Russ Kotlarek | Sad loss Indeed

My prayer go out to Pam and Paul's Family.

I recall very well "back in the day" when there was an issue Paul was always the very responsive individual to address the problem face on and just resolve the problem.

A Kind caring man in which you knew you were in good hands.

Paul will be missed not only in this community but no doubt anywhere his touch was felt!

God Bless !

Russ Kotlarek

01-12-2014, 04:23 PM

Tom Saccio | Jack Ardoyno

January 12 2014

Just wanted to take a moment to remember a great Seawinder and true friend who passed away a year ago today. He lived his life without regrets and lived it to the fullest. I will miss him for as long as I can still remember.

01-12-2014, 06:20 PM

Fred Lohr

thanks for the reminder Tom. He will always be missed and remembered.

01-13-2014, 07:34 PM


A true friend to the seawind community. Jack you have been missed and not forgotten!

01-14-2014, 12:23 AM

mike reibling

To a great man and good friend. I think about him all the time...

Fitting words from Jack's service:

I would rather be ashes than dust!

I would rather that my spark burn out in a brilliant blaze than it should by stiffed by dry-rot.

I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow,

than a sleepy permanent planet.

The function of man is to live, not to exist.

I shall not waste my days trying to prolong them.

Great words for a good friend.

12-08-2013, 10:22 AM

Mike | So What Would I L@@K For If I Were Purchasing A Seawind Today?

So What Would I L@@K For If I Were Purchasing A Seawind Today?

I was sent an email the other day that asked; What Would You L@@K For If You Were Purchasing A Seawind Today? Good question. The following is what I would consider the most important to look at in a pre-buy. It is not by any means complete and should only be used as an additional reference for the person conducting the pre-buy.

Engine – The engine compartment and engine need a though checkout for:

1-All Ad’s for the installed engine.

2-If fuel injected, check fuel spider for loose and or cracked lines. Also check for proper line support against vibration.

3-All lines feeding the engine shall be rated for the fuel flow at max flow (1/2” Lines for an IO-540).

4-Engine fuel strainer – Remove – Examine for very fine particles – clean thoroughly – replace or reinstall.

Propeller –

1-Check for cracks, dents, nicks….

2-Check for lubrication

3-Note the distance between the prop tip and turtle deck – record.

Wings –

1-Check for fuel seepage at the bottom of the spar. Can be checked thru the bottom inspection ports with a camera.

2-All lines feeding the engine rated for the fuel flow at max flow (1/2” Lines for an IO-540).

3-Check sponson tips for scrapes (not a major concern unless the sponson is missing).

4-Check for the “stiffness” of the control surfaces from the cockpit. If I remember correctly the manual says 28 pounds; I think it might be more like 18 on the cables.

5-The mixer has been disabled in my plane. The plane was very squirrelly at slow speeds with the mixer and flaps at 40*. Even without the mixer, caution should be used when using 40*, one must keep and eye on the power settings.

Hydraulics –

1-Check for leaks, cracked hoses and bad fittings.

2-Was Granville Phillips added?

Landing Gear –

1-Are the brakes old or newer style?

2-Check for the matching of the inner tube and tire.

3-Fold marks in the inner tube = wrong inner tube.


5-What is the version of the oleos that are on the plane? Newer oleos have a pinned nut at the end of the shaft to prevent separation.

6-When moving the plane on the ground does the NLG bounce? If so check oleo for proper PSI loading.

7-Is the plane level when looking from the front? Check fuel levels first then check MLG oleo PSI loading.

Fuselage –

1-Check for cracks & scrapes at the step, tail, & turtle deck. Depending on the size and location, they might not be a concern.

Fuel System –

1-Now this is a bucket of worms…… I have always believed that the header tanks MUST BE VENTED. I have proven that this is a must or air will get trapped in the header tank.

2-Header tanks MUST HAVE level sensors…!!!

3-All lines feeding the engine rated for the fuel flow at max flow (1/2” Lines for an IO-540).

Electronics –

1-The type of electronics, radios……etc…… were the personal preference of the builder. I personally prefer a glass cockpit although I also have a partial six pack under the glass.

Do a complete NEW ANNUAL ( ), check here before you fly the plane. A second or even a third set of eyes will always be a good way to go.

Flying the Seawind – Finally you have purchased the Seawind, Now what?

I remember the day Jack meet me in Florida for the pre-buy of N20W. He mentioned that he has taught people with no experience all the way up to ATP’s, CFI’s CFII’s….., people with lots of flying experience. Mike, “you will not get it the first time in the plane”. How hard can it be? Well Jack was right. By the end of the first day of flying my knees were knocking. A few drinks that night took care of the knocking knees….. The next day it all gelled and by the third day I was flying home to NY by myself. Water landings and take off’s another story. You will need many land take off’s and landings before you even think of getting water instruction.

The seawind is a great, fun plane to fly however YOU do need to go with someone that has flown seawinds. I would not recommend the local flight instructor or the local seaplane flight instructor. You need someone that has type time..!! The plane does not react like other planes you have flown. It’s a plane, like all others, you need to keep ahead of.

- Check your pride at the door

- Know your limitations

This thread is by no means complete and therefore I invite the rest of the group to add to this thread. Please comment below good or bad…..

11-25-2013, 11:52 AM

Russ Kotlarek | Seawind across America and Bahamas

Wow !!! Just returned from a couple weeks of Travel. In that it included flying across the country and out to the Bahamas in two beloved Seawinds. Then a final flight transitioning David into his new Seawind 242PK in which he flew home by himself to Atlanta. Wish we had a longer stretch of time for the two of us to fly together but time was limited and as I told David airplanes and rushing are never the best combination. He did well !!!

Before that I joined up with Fred for a beautiful flight in his Seawind from his place in Chestertown MD down to Clearwater FL where he will be able to fly his Seawind throughout the Summer and spring until things are passable on his strip.

Secondly John Parks and I flew his airplane out to the Bahamas specifically the Exuma's and had a number of amazingly beautiful flights about the Islands and returned to Sarasota afterwards.

All of this flying was great and I thank each for sharing. For me personally 2013 has been a fabulous year of Seawind flying including time with everyone here as well as Tom, Ed, ... As always thank you all I enjoyed flying with each of you!


08-31-2013, 06:57 AM

deastis | Ramp/rail system

Getting the horse before the that I am a new Seawind owner, I have been advised that the Seawind needs 3 1/2 feet of water to exit onto a ramp. I have about 50 + feet of shallow "muck" prior to shore. I was planning on a 20' wide, maybe 30' long ramp (not 50'). I doubt the Corp of Engineers will approve such a structure and dredging probably is not an option either. Anyone have knowledge of a "rail system" that I could float onto a cradle, gear up, and power up the rail/cradle? Or winch up? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, David Eastis

08-31-2013, 02:34 PM


Hummmm, I see some nighttime activities planed. Better to do and then ask for forgiveness. A rail system could be rather easy to construct. Wouldn't u need permission to anchor a rail system? Google boat rail systems.

08-16-2013, 08:08 AM

Mike | It's all about electronic devices

Mabe the plane stays stationary and the world turns under it....

01-16-2013, 12:48 PM

Tom Saccio | Jack's Memorial

I just received word from Jack's Family that the Memorial Service will be On Feb 2nd at the Summit Manor Reception House, 275 Summit Ave Saint Paul Mn 55102 Between the Hours of 1 & 4 PM. The family would like to know how many people will be attending, so please let me know if any of you could make it.


Tom Saccio

Home 252 940-0083

Cell 252 945-5199

01-16-2013, 09:56 PM

mike reibling | Jack's Memorial

Thanks Tom,

I am booked to arrive Friday Feb 1. out on the 3rd.

I will wait for now to see if anyone can post something on hotel info.

Mike Reibling

01-16-2013, 10:28 PM

Ed Lynch | Jack's Memorial

Mary Lou and I will be there. Ed

01-18-2013, 07:42 PM

keithw | Memorial

Barbara and I will be there. Ed and MaryLou want to stop here a day ahead or so, You are so welcome as well as anyone else comming this way. Planemaker folks etc, Keith Walljasper

01-19-2013, 10:22 PM

Russ Kotlarek

Tom we spoke and I will be there but in case anyone else was looking here for who will attend I will be there likely coming in the 1st leaving the 3rd

Russ Kotlarek

01-21-2013, 10:40 AM

Russ Kotlarek | Transportation in Minn.

I spoke with Keith, him and I will be driving into Minn. so vehicles will be available over the weekend. That said I if anyone is looking for transportation to and from the airport or alike please feel free to call. 414-899-1077 (Cell) I'll be more than happy to help in this regard as I can.

I will be driving up Friday Morning. For those coming in early would we like to get together Friday Evening?

Russ Kotlarek

01-21-2013, 05:34 PM


Where r people staying?

01-22-2013, 06:13 PM

jar59nh | Jack's Memorial

Thanks for posting the info. My wife Pupae & I will be attending.

John Ricciotti

01-23-2013, 02:28 PM


I will be ariving at around 330pm friday afternoon.

I managed to get a room rate of $66.00/night including a breakfast buffet and all taxes at the holiday inn in eagan.

I currently have 10 rooms blocked under seawind.

Call 651-454-3434 and mention Seawind. The hotel has shuttle service from the airport.

Please let me know below if you will be getting a room so i can add more if needed.



01-23-2013, 08:04 PM

mike reibling | hotel info

Mike I'm in now at the Holiday INN as well. I also picked up a car.

Mike Reibling

01-25-2013, 01:33 PM

Ed Lynch | Hotel Info

Mary Lou and I will arrive Friday at MSP, and have booked a car, and a room at the Holiday Inn. Look forward to getting together that night. Ed

01-25-2013, 07:19 PM

keithw | Memorial

I will be at H Inn also. Will be checking in around 2 P M ish.on Fri. Checking out Sunday Feb. 3rd. Anyone needing a ride ? Pleas advise. Keith Walljasper 309 530 3097

01-26-2013, 10:01 AM


Anybody want to meet for dinner friday night? Meet holiday inn lobby at 5pm

01-27-2013, 01:25 PM

keithw | Memorial

Great Lobby 5pm Keith Holiday Inn

01-27-2013, 07:50 PM

jar59nh | Dinner Friday night

Pupae & I should arrive in MSP at 5:20 PM. We should be at the hotel around 6PM. We will try to catch up with you all.

Thanks, John Ricciotti

01-29-2013, 08:22 PM

Larry Brunzlick

I will be driving over on friday afternoon, staying at the Holiday Inn, and plan to be in the lobby at 5 p.m.


02-01-2013, 09:43 AM



Chris and I regret that at this time we don't have the resources to attend Jack's Services. We give our sincerest condolences to his family and friends. We will surely miss him.

If anybody wants to do the research on how to get Jack memorialized on the wall at Oshkosh, we will be glad to donate some money towards the cause.

Best Regards,

John J and Chris D

02-01-2013, 03:27 PM

Fred Lohr

i am sorry that i wont be able to make it to the service due to some commitments i can't seem to escape. Best regards to fellow seawinders, and sincere condolances to jacks family. We will be thinking about him.

fred lohr

02-01-2013, 05:31 PM



Originally Posted by Planemakers View Post


Chris and I regret that at this time we don't have the resources to attend Jack's Services. We give our sincerest condolences to his family and friends. We will surely miss him.

If anybody wants to do the research on how to get Jack memorialized on the wall at Oshkosh, we will be glad to donate some money towards the cause.

Best Regards,

John J and Chris D

Count me in, i will look into the wall at oshkosh. I didn't know there was one


02-01-2013, 11:45 PM

Mike | Jack Ardoyno Memorial Fund

Jack Ardoyno Memorial Fund

Jack Ardoyno loved flying all his life. He flew over 200 missions in Vietnam and continued flying light aircraft, even becoming a flight instructor. Jack loved nothing more than introducing young people to the joys of flying. On the event of Jack's death, his family has decided to create a fund that will allow 6 young people to attend the EAA Young Eagles Aviation Camp in Oshkosh, WI. For those of you who knew Jack, this fund allows his love of flying and mentoring to live on through this program. If this fund raiser is successful, we can look at making this an annual event. Please help us continue Jack's legacy and contribute to this fund.

Please visit,


02-04-2013, 04:52 PM


This is from the EAA site..........

Honoring Each Legacy

With a donation of $350 or more, you can personalize the plaque with the person’s name and outstanding details of their life.Each Memorial Wall plaque inscription allows for two text lines consisting of 28 characters each (includes spaces, punctuation, etc.). Special commemorative rubbing paper will be available before and after the service for guests to make individual rubbings of the plaque.

Each Memorial wall inductee also receives a one-page biography (500 words max. plus photo) in the 2013 Memorial Wall Registry Album. (See an example.) The album will be added to the collection from past years including the biographies and photos of all previous inductees. Albums are available for viewing at the Chapel during EAA AirVenture Oshkosh and are also accessible throughout the year upon request at the EAA AirVenture Museum.

02-06-2013, 01:06 PM

Tom Saccio | Thank you from the Ardoyno's from Elise

I just wanted to thank all the Seawind folks for coming to the memorial service. I also wanted to let you all know that we have created a memorial website for Jack with lots of pictures. You can also read Tom Saccio's moving tribute to my father. Please add your thoughts to the guest book, it is so very comforting to hear what people have to say about my dad, and feel free to upload any pictures to the site. Once you upload them, I get an email and then I post them.

02-06-2013, 01:09 PM

Tom Saccio | From Elise again

Sorry forgot to post the link:

01-29-2013, 09:03 AM

gderamel | TRAVEL: Artic Adventure Guide

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01-13-2013, 09:57 AM

Tom Saccio | Sad News

I received some terrible news this morning. It is with great sadness that I tell you that Jack Ardoyno was killed in a plane crash in Sarasota,FL yesterday afternoon.He was flying a Seawind with a passenger when the plane lost power and crashed. I don't know who the passenger was. He is alive and in a hospital in Sarasota with second and third degree burns.

If I get any other news I will pass it on.

Tom Saccio

01-13-2013, 01:59 PM

mike reibling | Sad News

Kristle and I are stunned by the news. I lost a good friend and mentor. We are sitting here numb, reflecting on all the good times we shared with Jack.

Our thoughts are with Lyndia and their family. Jack was a special friend to all Seawinders and will be truly missed.

01-13-2013, 02:15 PM

Larry Brunzlick

Likewise, Sharon and I are still in disbelief. The hearts of the entire seawind community go out to Lyndia and family. Jack's contribution to us all has been too immence to begin to tell. His infectious upbeat humor and smile will be sadly missed.


01-13-2013, 06:07 PM

Tony Jurcan

Mackie and I cannot believe jack is gone. Just a month ago Jack spent three days with us instructing me in my Seawind. Jack enjoyed life, had a positive attitude and a great sense of humor. He will be missed by all who knew him.

01-13-2013, 06:29 PM

Ed Lynch | Jack's passing

A really sad day for us all!

01-13-2013, 06:35 PM


This is a very sad day for all Jacks freinds and family. The seawind community has lost a dear friend and partner. Our condolances go out to the family.

I remember flying to wisconson a few years ago for water training. Jack had mentioned at the onset that he is the pilot in command and if he says to do something it is to be done without question. I still remember the grin he had when he said that. As time went on all went well. Up, down, in and out of the water we went. The last day we were ready to land in Hayward, about 400 feet on final ....... And Jack pipes up and says, " Do a go around". I L@@ked at him like.........before i could get a word out he reminded me of his first statement. I started the go around and asked....whats up? He mentioned that the gear was up!

Jack was a great instructor always looking out for everyons best interest!

He will be missed!!

01-13-2013, 11:30 PM

Russ Kotlarek

Sad day for all of us. No one can say enough good about Jack in all so many ways he always cared about those aorund him. Not only will his talents and input be missed a good friend now gone will leave a hole in all of us we will never be able to fill.

Our prayers go out to the entire family and friends.

We will all miss him dearly !


01-14-2013, 01:11 PM

Tom Saccio | Thank you

This Elise Ardoyno, Jack's daughter, Tom graciously let me use his login to read what everyone was saying. Thank you very much for your thoughts. The relationships my father formed through the Seawind community meant the world to him. There is so much to take care of because of the accident, but we will be planning a memorial service, just not this weekend. You are all welcome to attend because you did mean so much to him. I can't pretend that I am in love with Seawinds. This accident is like my worst fear coming true, but when you love someone, you love the whole person, and dammnit, he loved Seawinds. I do not, but I love him like crazy and I love how happy you all made him. If any of you would like to contact me personally, please do so at I will keep Tom informed of updates to the memorial service. Thank you - Elise Ardoyno

01-14-2013, 06:49 PM

Fred Lohr

Ever since i heard of Jack's death two days ago, i have been having a very hard time dealing with a deep sadness and sense of loss. But hearing from Elise has made me feel better, because certainly if she can handle it, so can we seawinders. Her note got me thinking about Jack and his good nature, patience, common sense, ironic sense of humor and his love for all things that fly and land on the water especially the seawind. He would want us to "keep calm and carry on" and so I will. Thanks for everything you taught me Jack, we had a blast flying and hanging out. and thanks, Elise

01-14-2013, 06:59 PM

Kevin Finnigan

I had the opportunity to meet many of you and Jack this past August at the splash in.

It was very sad to hear of this tragic incident.

While at the splash in, I was able to see that Jack was a dear friend and leader to all Seawinders near and far. His expertise and patience has helped many Seawinders with their construction issues and flying skills. It was easy to see that when there was any type of question, Jack was one of the first to hear about it and offer a solution. Jack's passion of the Seawind community was beyond obvious and certainly untouchable.

My deepest sympathy go out to his family and the Seawind community.

01-15-2013, 10:25 AM


I just learned of Jack's passing. I can't say how shocked and saddened I am. Jack was definitely a rare bird; I'm so glad I got to know him. I only wish he wasn't taken from us so soon. I know I had a lot more to learn from him.

10-11-2012, 10:55 PM

keithw | Matco Wheel Bearings (and brackish water)

After I got home this year I pulled my wheels apart to check for salt water and rust. Two years ago I didn't for a couple months (at annual time) only to find a very compromised set of rusty bearings that required replacing. Also the stator plates had pitted so bad that I had to replace them also.* ka ching--ka ching. This year only small amount and cleaned up o k.* Question** The bearings have a built in seal and I always have one or two that Ihave nicked or tore slightly only to replace them. Called Matco and even though the bearing is fine they have no repair/replacement for the seal?????** Also how do you know when the bearing is full of grease???* Im always afraid that I will over fill and blow grease out onto the disc's.* Any recommendations???** Keith Walljasper** N80CC

10-11-2012, 09:31 AM

Russ Kotlarek | Stern Thruster Video No Water Rudder

Attached there is a video of Jerry In North Vegas testing the Stern Thruster design I created some time back and installed on my plane. The plane still in building more Jerry elected to place the design into his airplane. Fully replacing the Water Rudder.

By rough measuring of what parts were removed for the Water Rudder assembly and the Stern Thruster is just slightly less in weight than the Water Rudder. This considering Rudder, Linkage, interlock for rudder, cable, rudder strut, ...

As one can see by the video the Stern Thruster has performed actually much better than expected. Best part is it's reliability in not having to get a device to interlock before use. As well the Stern Thruster is full functioning while the plane is at rest.

The Video demonstrates it's effectiveness on Lake Mead.

Until the Video makes it to our site here are the youtube links to a couple of them:

Under Power

No Power (Very Cool !!)

Mike is working on Getting the Video up)


Russ Kotlarek

09-13-2012, 06:53 AM

Pilot221 | Kit Inventory, and such

hello all,

I am in the process of buying an unstarted quickbuild kit. I am looking for advice and a kit content list to be able to perform a proper parts inventory.

Does anyone have an official kit list?... the factory is not answering my emails.

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated as well.



09-13-2012, 07:54 PM

Ed Lynch | Seawind Kit inventory list

Do you get the three volumes of the Seawind Assembly Manual? I sure hope so! Each section of volumes one and two begins with a parts list for that section. Those same pages made up my shipping list as a seperate document that came with my kit. I can't find it ten years later, but my manual pages are reasonably intact, and I can copy and send them to you if needed. Trying to build a Seawind without the manuals would be about impossible, so you need to get them! Good Luck! Ed

09-13-2012, 11:04 PM


Thanks Ed, I would really appreciate scanned copies of those parts list pages. Was your kit also a Quickbuild kit? Would there be a difference between kits with number far apart, e.g. 80 vs 120?

Please PM me the pages as soon as you can and thanks again!

09-14-2012, 06:30 AM


What kit number are you L@@King at?

PS - The splashin would be a great place to gather info - see events

09-14-2012, 08:55 AM


I scanned the entire manual to pdf a few years back. It's in several files and not indexable but it is reasonably current and complete. It's too big to email but if you need it I can post it on our website in a secret location for you to download.

John J

09-14-2012, 03:07 PM



Originally Posted by Planemakers View Post

I scanned the entire manual to pdf a few years back. It's in several files and not indexable but it is reasonably current and complete. It's too big to email but if you need it I can post it on our website in a secret location for you to download.

John J

I'll take you up on your fantastic offer. Where is it?


09-14-2012, 03:08 PM


Mike, it's kit 127 if i am not mistaken.

09-15-2012, 05:42 PM


Ok thanks, i have a place we can store the manuals here john.

I will call you monday, or you can post it and i will move it

09-15-2012, 09:03 PM

Tom Saccio | Splash-in

Mike where are you from?On the 28th and the29th of this month we are having a splash-in in Washington NC you are welcome to come. It would be a great place for you to gain an incredible amount of knowledge and information on the construction of the Seawind. You will also be able to inspect Seawindsna that have been built and flying. Tom Saccio

09-17-2012, 09:55 AM


Mike and Mike,

I will make up a page on the Planemakers site later tonight. My connection here at the shop is painfully slow but I have FiOS at home. I will post the link here tomorrow morning and then, Mike 1, you can download it and Mike 2 you can store it here.

John J

09-20-2012, 02:05 AM

Mike | Good Job Jack

Emergency Landing at Sebastian Inlet

SEBASTIAN INLET — A single-engine amphibious airplane made an emergency landing on the Indian River Lagoon Saturday after it began to lose engine power and could not make it to the nearest airfield.

Pilot Jack Ardoyno and passenger Leonard Fleming were uninjured and the Seawind experimental aircraft sustained no apparent damage in the 4 p.m. water landing. Local authorities initially responded to reports the airplane had crashed.

Ardoyno, of Hayward, Wisc., said the aircraft had just left Vero Beach Municipal Airport and was at 1,700 feet and climbing over Sebastian when it started to experience engine trouble. Ardoyno, an instructor on that model of aircraft, recognized an oil pressure problem that robs the engine of power and tried to limp the aircraft over the water to Sebastian Municipal Airport.

Ardoyno said it became apparent he wasn't going to clear trees on the western shore of the Indian River Lagoon, so he set the plane, which can operate on both land and water, down on the water.

He and Fleming, a Port Orchard, Wash., man who had just purchased the plane, were surrounded by a flotilla of boats offering help, including marine units from the Sheriff's Office and Indian River County Fire Rescue. But they restarted the engine and water taxied the plane to a near-vacant parking lot on the southwest side of Sebastian Inlet State Park.

The men almost succeeded in reaching the roadway before the plane's nose wheel collapsed in soft sand.

The men said they planned to remove the aircraft's wings and trailer it to an airport.

Ardoyno and Fleming originally planned to fly from Vero Beach to Bowling Green, Ohio, for a fuel stop on the way to Washington state.

08-21-2012, 05:08 PM

Larry Brunzlick | New Seawind flys: N896CB

The Brunzlick family is pleased to announce the first flight and completion of phase 1 testing for N896CB. It has been long awaited. I made my first deposit and had my first demonstration flight 18 years ago. I began building the first sub kit in January of 1995. Admittedly there were many years when I didn't work on it at all. Sometimes life gets in the way. This past week I had my first ride in a Seawind (my own) since that first demonstration ride 18 years ago. And it very much made up for the long wait.

The best thing I could have done was to take my project down to Planemakers in Sarasota four years ago to finish it up. I made many trips down there to work on the plane and usually got a lot more done in those weeks down there than I would have at home. But I also did work on many of the parts up here in Wisconsin and took them down when they were ready. Not only did they do great work on my plane but I also learned a lot from Chris and John and the whole crew.

Jack Ardoyno was invaluable this past couple of weeks for the initial flight testing, troubleshooting, tweaking, and training. Even though everything is assembled properly, things need to be inspected after flights, and controls need to be tweaked in ways that I would have never known about. Jack puts in a very long day and he is worth every penny. There are lots of two steps forward and one back in this business.

They always say that it's not a good idea to be the first one getting the newest latest and greatest for one's airplane. It is true. We went with the Advanced Flight Systems for our panel. The 4000 series of displays are tested and true. But they came out with a new 5600 model display and we have serial number 9 which we put on the pilot's side. Little did we know that the power source in the unit would cause so much interference with our radio reception. Lots of hair pulling and gnashing of teeth finally led to the discovery. But not until we had cut the antenna wire to one of my glassed in copper foil antennas and bought a new commercially made antenna which didn't work any better either. The problem was not the antenna it was the 5600 unit. AFS has a fix for it (no charge but lots of grief on our part) and we are sending it back today.

We ended up turning down the squelch sensitivity on the one radio that we were able to, but it still made communications with ATC very difficult. As a result we ended up flying in Formation with my Cherokee six in the lead and Jack flying on the wing. Reception with ground and tower were okay, but Tampa approach and departure controllers were all but impossible to hear and understand. We did this to get out of Sarasota airspace and down to Venice where we could do the testing and training outside of the controlled airspace. The problem was a blessing in disguise. It was a great experience and I even got experience flying wingman in the Seawind on the way home to Wisconsin. It gave us the opportunity to get great pictures both of the new Seawind and our Cherokee six. Sharon and I took turns flying the Cherokee Six home. I was riding in the Seawind when Jack demonstrated the aileron rolls.

Cadence our daughter, caught one of the rolls on video and I have posted it on the Seawind Photobucket site. There are additional pics also. I have pasted Mike's previous post on how to get to the Photobucket site which I had al but forgotten about. Go to All albums and the Sub-album N896CB

Hint: Mike is it possible to post the Photobucket link, username, and password somewhere at the top or bottom of the forum page so we don't have to hunt for it on page 4 of the general discussions?

P.S. Cadence just turned 16 in July and soloed in our Cherokee Six two weeks ago.

A new photobucket account has been set up for the Seawind Pilots Association.

To enter the account:

User - Seawindpilot

Password - 1seawindpilot1

Once in, click on upload to and select the area you wish to upload to........

Click on upload images and video, select image or video from your computer, upload


08-13-2012, 10:03 AM

SWightman | Upholstered back seat

Does anyone have a good suggestion for how to get the back seat upholstered or how to buy a ready made one that fits? Thanks

08-10-2012, 11:47 AM

Robehouse | Seawind on TV

This past June I had the pleasure of flying GR for a Disney special at Puddingstone res. in Calif. Just got the word, Disney's TRYathlon will air this Monday (8/13), 8pm Pacific Time. GR should be in the last few minutes of the special assuming we avoided the cutting room floor JR

06-16-2012, 03:47 PM

Tom Saccio | Green fuel

I had a fuel leak and about a gallon went into the bilge. When I drained it out it was green. For the life of me I can't figure out who it was green in color. I've asked a lot of people but know one seems to have an answer. The only other color in the billed was some residue from a hydraulic leak and that's red. Does any one have any ideas what could have caused the green color?

Tom Saccio

06-17-2012, 06:21 AM

Fred Lohr

how about this theory.... easily tested. 95 %blue avgas plus 5 % red hydraulic fluid, mix together, yields green.

06-19-2012, 05:10 PM

Larry Brunzlick

I don't know but I always thought blue and red made purple. Seems like it would have had to be some source of yellow to mix with blue and make green.

Unless the base color of the hydraulic fluid is enough yellow to over power the added red dye. Some submersible electric pumps have a hydrocarbon fluid in them. Could the avgas have caused a leak in a seal in the bilge pump and caused a leak of yellow tinged fluid? Or dissolved some labeling on the bilge pump?

Larry Brunzlick

06-23-2012, 07:00 PM

Ed Lynch | Green fuel

Tom, How scared were you when you discovered fuel in your bilge?? Ed

06-23-2012, 09:56 PM

Tom Saccio | Green fuel

quite scared.

06-24-2012, 04:21 PM



What was the nature of the fuel leak?

06-25-2012, 09:53 AM

Tom Saccio | Fuel Leak

The leak was in the Aluminum Tube that goes from the Andair mixing valve to the Boast pump. From there it goes to the engine. The lea occurred where the line passes through the floor boards.

06-25-2012, 01:53 PM


Rubber grommet?

05-27-2012, 10:25 PM

mike reibling | Seawind Kit

While at the Minnesota Seaplane safety seminar I met a guy that said he has a Seawind kit. I don't know the number but if someone is trying to keep track of kits. His name is Ken Aldrich from Fargo ND. He owns KLA Truck Trailers. 701-261-8535. I don't think he is actively building so it may come up for sale at some point or maybe he might look for builder help to finish.

05-28-2012, 08:34 AM


Hi Mike,

I am always trying to update the registry. Thanks for the info, i will call him.

04-09-2011, 08:38 AM

gderamel | Seawind Imitation/copy

The Seawind has a new twin! A French company, LISA Airplanes has an airplane - actually flying - which looks almost exactly like the Seawind.

Company claims some innovations:

Ri&Flex Wing

Swiveling Wing



What caught my eye was the integration of Hydrofoils which the company claims "sift[s] the fuselage out of the water at very low speed and dispense with the need for a step or fairing." Anyone else seen or attempted this on a Seawind?


04-10-2011, 10:56 AM


Hi G,

I have looked into the possibilities of adding foils to the seawind. While it is possible I have not fully researched the issue. The above looks like it is a fixed wing which might be ok. I was thinking Of something that could flip down under the gear for water and snow.....

07-22-2011, 12:38 AM

Rusty | Hydrofoils

I guess the hydrofoil idea occurs to all of us at one time or another. It's that submerged log you think about that dampens your enthusiasm. I can remember what it cost for a new low lower unit when the driver of my boat clipped the fin off on a chunk of concrete while I was skiing. Can't weld a new fin on when there's only a 1/4" stub left--warps the housing & the bearings don't fit.

04-27-2012, 05:33 AM


AOPA News: Yachting's LSA: Akoya luxury amphib to land in US

A sleek amphibious airplane from France that draws design inspiration from the world of high-speed sailing is preparing to make a splash in the United States.

Luxury aircraft company Lisa Airplanes is preparing its two-seat, composite Akoya for certification in the United States and Europe, and expects to make its first deliveries stateside in the spring or summer of 2013, U.S. Marketing Manager Vanessa Troillard told AOPA Online. The aircraft uses fin-like hydrofoils to reduce drag on takeoff from water and in the air, and comes equipped with retractable landing gear and skis. Troillard said the company expects to exhibit the aircraft in the United States for the first time this year at EAA AirVenture.

Company founders Erick Herzberger and Luc Bernole wanted to make a new generation of aircraft that could land on ground, water, or snow, Troillard said. While traditional floats work well on water, they increase drag significantly in the air, so the two men looked to the boating industry for insight.

And what better inspiration for an aircraft that floats than a boat that flies? The record-setting French sailboat the Hydroptère uses hydrofoils as underwater “wings” to lift the hull and floats of the craft meters above the sea surface, reducing drag and allowing the sailboat to top 50 knots over one nautical mile. Lisa Airplanes applied the same principles to its Akoya.

The Akoya’s fin-like hydrofoils lift it up out of the water, reducing drag.

The hydrofoils, which the company dubs Seafoils, lift the airframe out of the water at about 15 knots, Troillard said, allowing the aircraft to pick up speed and take off in about 700 feet. But the main advantage is reduced drag in flight: “The aircraft goes faster in the air and has a better range,” she said. The company boasts a top speed of 135 knots in the European market and 120 knots in the United States, according to light sport restrictions; at economy cruise speed (103 knots), Lisa says the Akoya burns only 12.4 liters (3.3 gallons) per hour of Unleaded 95 fuel. That’s 36 mpg, the equivalent of many small cars. Its range is close to 600 nm at economy cruise speed and hits 810 nm with an optional extended-range tank. The aircraft has a Rotax 912 ULS FR 100-horsepower engine and comes equipped with a whole-aircraft parachute.

The Akoya’s retractable landing gear is equipped with skis.

With sleek lines, a luxurious interior, and what the company calls “Multi-Access” technology, the Akoya represents Lisa Airplanes’ intention, as it states on its website “of creating a*new aviation*which*suggests a change in lifestyle.” This new lifestyle gives owners the power of mobility, Troillard said.

“As Akoya can land on water, snow, and ground and with good speed and good range, you can almost take off from your home and go right to your final destination; and you don’t need to take any taxi or go to an airport and have all the security checks and everything,” she said. “We call it point-to-point trips. … You can choose to go wherever you want, whenever you want, with your wife or your friend.”

Lisa Airplanes announced a collaboration with Danish Yachts at the Monaco Yacht Show in 2008. “Together, they plan to develop new projects and provide additional benefits and initiatives to superyacht owners and captains: the ‘private aircraft carrier,’” Lisa explained in a press kit.

And, with a price tag of 300,000 Euros (about $396,000) for a “turnkey” package that includes training, a three-year warranty, three-year maintenance, and more, it’s also a lifestyle of luxury: With its wings folded, GQ France wrote in its April issue, the Akoya has the dimensions required for loading onto a yacht.

The Akoya made its first flight in 2007 and is currently in flight testing; the aircraft will be on static display at EAA AirVenture in Oshkosh, Wis. Troillard said Lisa will start production of compliant aircraft this summer and begin deliveries in France under a permit to fly in late 2012 or early 2013. She said the company will pursue certification as a special light sport aircraft (S-LSA) in the United States and then under the relatively new CS-LSA rules in Europe.

04-15-2012, 05:10 PM

krisgmil | What's going on with the certification...

Every once in awhile I pop over to see if there has been any new newsletters or info on the certification process. It's been pretty quiet since last fall. Anyone heard anything?

03-13-2012, 12:00 PM

Robehouse | Great beach days

20 miles east of Las Vegas .. Seawind N521GR landing on beautiful Lake Mead

12-02-2011, 10:03 PM

gderamel | Invitation: Arctic Turbo Beaver


Philippe, a fellow seaplane pilot, has asked me to extend an invitation to anyone who might be interested in sharing expenses to northern Quebec next summer in his Turbo Beaver. I met him last summer at Rapid Lake Lodge/Barnoin Camp on my "Arctic Trip" with the Seawind.

He owns and flies a beautiful Turbo Beaver (full glass panel), which comes fully equipped with the finest french Bordeaux (wine) and gourmet cheeses (a true Frenchman!). If you've got the $$, it's definitely an incredible opportunity. He's indicated an "all included" price ($25,000/couple) from Montreal. Considering the cost of fuel at the camp was $20/gal, it sounds extremely fair.



Bonjour Guillaume,

Comment ça va ? I hope everything is fine for you.

I am already thinking to book my summer trips, to Northern Quebec, for fly-fishing or only for visiting from the air, all this fantastic Northern region.

Like I did tell you, I could organize a trip for a couple (2 people), to Rapid lake, with my Turbo Beaver.

If someone is interested to live a special occasion (you have seen it), they could do it with my wife and I, in our fantastic amphibian.

I figure a cost, Montreal-Montreal, all included, of $24882.00 per couple.

If booked before December 31 2011, we have a $2000.00 off, on the trip.

If a man and his wife want to bring one more person (like a kid over 10 years), it is possible and the extra charge would be only $ 2000, since the other cost like gas, are already covered.

The people arrive a day before and leave a day after the end of trip. (Staying at my private place, around Montreal).

Let me know, Guillaume if you have people interested.

Hope to see you somewhere on a lake, next year..

09-08-2011, 06:33 AM

Jack Ardoyno | Fuel Flow Problem

I want to alert all Seawinders to a potential fuel flow problem encountered recently during a training session.

With about 100 hours on the airplane, the owner was practicing solo touch and gos on the runway. After four landings, he aborted the subsequent takeoff citing the inability of the engine to develop full power. Observing from the right seat during a high speed taxi run on the runway, I noted the fuel flow at 12.5 gallons per hour. During a subsequent run the fuel flow was noted at 10.0 GPH.

Disassembling the in line filter revealed a completely clean filter with no obstruction. Removing the fuel screen at the inlet to the fuel control (downstream of the engine driven pump) revealed it to be completely clogged with what appeared to be (under magnification) small fiberglass fibers.

We concluded that the in line filter (about 100 microns) was passing fiberglass residue from the installation of the long fuel probes which was being caught by the screen at the fuel control (about 10 microns).


Inspect this screen at the earliest opportunity and at every subsequent annual inspection.

Some have also suggested replacing the inline filter with a finer mesh element similar to the screen at the fuel control.


09-22-2011, 05:23 PM

Ed Lynch

I just examined my fuel screen at the fuel servo inlet, and it appears clean. I am soaking it in gas (inlet down), and will blow it out before reinstalling it. My primary fuel filter is from Summit, and has a 40 micron element. I have cleaned fiberglass out of it every time I inspect it! At each oil change, and at annual time, I have to clean significant amounts of junk out of it, but it has kept the system clean so far. A 10 micron element is available for this filter, but is a throwaway type, not a cleanable screen. I just backflush it--does anyone have a better way to do it? Ed

07-09-2011, 06:47 AM

Russ Kotlarek | Hydraulic Valves vs Manifold block

For those who may want to change the Gear and Flap Hydraulic Valves from the Manifold Block to Valves like the Lake Amphib uses. There is 4 new valves available on ebay for sale at a great price. Mine has already been retrofit during the build to look much like the Lake system.

These valves are normally 6 times the price listed on Ebay so in comparison they are very cheap. Here is a link to that listing if you desire I will will be happy to send you a diagram of my hydraulic system.

Russ Kotlarek

07-09-2011, 09:41 AM

Tony Jurcan


Thanks for posting the info on the Ebay valves. I am already using them in my Seawind, but it is good to have new spares.


04-23-2011, 05:59 AM

Mike | Seawind Newsletter Spring 2011

03-30-2011, 02:05 AM

mike reibling | Main gear hydraulic ram

Does any one have a line drawing of the main gear Hydraulic rams and or know the size of the oring that fit inside the ram.


03-30-2011, 11:15 AM


Mike, I have what you r seeking. When I return home next week I will contact you if u haven't received anything by then

03-30-2011, 02:09 PM

Fred Lohr

if this is one of the hydraulic units made by evansburg tool, you can contact Alan Stadlin at 619 489 7580. If it is one of the earlier units from around 98 or before it was made by "control line". I had the older ones and they had a control line decal on them. ended up replacing one after damaging it and the newer one from evansburg doesnt leak (yet

03-31-2011, 11:51 AM


That's the name of the guy......evansburg in pa.

03-28-2011, 01:25 PM

Mike | It's not who you know or where you go, because you will always know someone!

Have you ever heard the saying it's not what you know it's who you know? Well in my case it not who you know because wherever I go I always know someone. Yes, I could go to the other end of the world and I would see someone I know. it never ceases to amaze me. A few years ago in the middle of the ocean on a cruise in the caribbean I turn a corner on the ship and..., yep a neighbor is staring me in the face. Well today I am sitting poolside in Aruba. Have you guessed where this going yet? Yes you are right, however I did not meet him poolside although I'll bet he was. About 10:15 yesterday morning I was sitting at JFK in NYC waiting to board the airplane and the copilot walked by.....nope he wasn't the one. Then the stewardesses sauntered by..DAM not them either. Ok so by now you have to had guesses the pilot. None other than the American airlines pilot, captain John Riccittoi (sp, sorry John). Well it never fails. After the 4.5 hour ride, we had a chance to talk. John is flying the big birds from to NYC to Aruba and is doing well. John mentioned that he has not been working on his seawind however plans on working on it this summer. He also mentioned that he will be going to sun n fun. John, great to see you again, keep in touch!

Safe landings.......see ya

12-24-2010, 08:17 AM

Mike | 2010 Christmas & Holidays

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all. Safe flights and great landings.

12-24-2010, 01:36 PM


Hi Mike,

Best wishes to you and your family this holiday season and thank you for your ISPA editor work which we greatly appreciate. Jerry & Bobbi Robele

10-29-2010, 07:18 AM

Mike | Separation Anxiety

Separation Anxiety

A few weeks ago I flew N20W down to Planemakers so they could install the newest version of the canopy escape hatch. I decided to have them install the hatch as well as thru bolting the nose gear, checking the dog bone and landing gear, and supporting the turtle deck due to cracking. Well it’s been a few weeks now and I miss flying the seawind. Can anyone suggest a good doctor that can get me over this anxiety issue?

11-15-2010, 04:18 PM


Ok, all is good for now......

11-23-2010, 04:16 PM


A ray of sunshine....getting my baby back 2nd week of december.....

10-19-2010, 07:13 AM

Mike | Please send me your photos or movies

Hi All,

Please send me your photos or movies of the last splashin or whatever you have so I can update the site.




10-25-2010, 06:41 AM


No One took any photos or movies.....except jack and myself....?

Hummmmmm, Please send.....

10-14-2010, 09:44 PM

Tom Saccio | Certified Seawind

Seawind has posted it's fall news letter on there web site. Check it out

The fall 2010 Seawind Flyer has just been posted on our website. To view the Flyer, click the link below:


P. O. Box 1041

Kimberton, PA 19442


Tel: 610-917-1120

Fax: 610-933-3335

10-07-2010, 11:05 AM

Mike | Photobucket - Add your photos

A new photobucket account has been set up for the Seawind Pilots Association.

To enter the account:

User - Seawindpilot

Password - 1seawindpilot1

Once in, click on upload to and select the area you wish to upload to........

Click on upload images and video, select image or video from your computer, upload

10-07-2010, 09:07 AM

Jack Ardoyno | Sams

At the recent Splashin, I raised the subject of what I would call Seawind "AD"s. Mike Witkowski informed me that the forum already had a section devoted to "SAMS", which would conceivably serve the same purpose.

While we would not seek the authority and comcomitant paperwork associated with real AD's, we think it would be helpful to publish a section on the forum which dealt with critical modifications which would enhance the safety of flying Seawinds.

Some items which come to mind are:

MLG axle pin travels

Big Tail failures

MLG attach point "dog bone" joint failures

NLG reinforcement

and others.

It appears that this might be best accomplished by a group effort, a panel of experienced Seawinders, who would discuss issues, assign a panel member the problem and solution and then "peer review" the proposal before publication on the dedicated part of the web site.

I am looking for Seawinders who would care to volunteer for this collaborative effort.

So far, John and Chris of Planemakers, Mike Witkowski, and I have volunteered.

If you are interested please reply to this post or contact me directly:

612 940-6425


10-07-2010, 08:51 AM

Jack Ardoyno | Big Tail Failures

At the Splashin, Oct 2, 3 and 4, 2010 we received testimony about two significant failures of the "Big Tail", an after market horizontal tail/elevator, assembly designed, manufactured and sold by Craig Easter for the Seawind.

Dick Silva attended and wishes that we emphasize that this is not an OEM part and that the increased size is not necessary and is downright dangerous.

I believe all who had personal experience with the two failures (the Seawinds of Guillaume DeRamel and John Parks), myself included, agree with this assessment.

The original design is quite sufficient in vertical authority.

We agree that the "Big Tail"'s larger size is unwarranted.

We believe, after investigating the failures, that the cause of the failures was most likely due to flutter induced by fiberglass joint failures, caused by poor workmanship.

We, therefore, strongly recommend that:

If you have a "Big Tail" and have not installed it, do not install it on your Seawind.

If you have installed the "Big Tail" on your Seawind, remove it and re-install the OEM tail/elevator combination.

Planemakers will be able to help with this as they have assisted in rectifying both of the known failures.


10-01-2010, 04:07 PM

gderamel | VIDEO: Iran's version of the Seawind

Video link...

09-30-2010, 03:06 PM

gderamel | Video: Seawind over Newport, RI

A friend of mine put this video together from a recent flight we took in my Seawind. It's all from inside the cockpit, but some great shots nonetheless of the Newport, Rhode Island area.

Video link.

Recommend selecting 480p resolution.


Guillaume de Ramel


401 662-5477


09-30-2010, 03:54 PM


Nice video......keep em comming

08-18-2010, 10:52 AM

Jack Ardoyno | Welcome Les St. Clair

I want to introduce Les St. Clair, who recently purchased N242PK from Ron Greeley. I delivered the plane to Les in Salt Lake City, his home.

Les is a super guy who spent a very successful career in raising, trading and breeding Egyptian/Arabian horses.

The Seawind is the latest addition to his aircraft stable which also includes a Malibu and an Aerostar.

I spent a very enjoyable few days owing to Les' and Linda's wonderful hospitality and hope to return for additional training.

Please join me in welcoming Les St. Clair.

08-18-2010, 12:24 PM


Welcome Les & Linda......Many happy flights..!!

08-20-2010, 04:18 PM

Robehouse | Welcome Les & Linda

If you're coming to Vegas anytime soon let me know and I'll arrange a tour of Lake Mead in GR.

08-21-2010, 08:47 PM

keithw | welcome Les and Linda

Many happy hours flying your Seawind and welcome to our group, Keith Walljasper N80CC

08-26-2010, 08:43 PM

Ed Lynch | Welcome Les and Linda

06-30-2010, 10:24 PM

Tom Saccio | Splash-in

Due to unforturnate circumstances Sandy and I will not be able to host the Splash-in this year as previously planned. I'm telling all of you at this time so that whom ever decides to take this Great Event on will have enough time to plan it. If at all possible Sandy and I will try to attend where ever it might be. I hope that someone will step up and do it as this Great Event should not die.

Tom Saccio

07-05-2010, 12:45 PM


Hi Tom & Sandy,

Sorry to hear that you won't be able to host the Splash-In this year.

I hope all is well.

Any Ideas, anyone...?

07-06-2010, 07:56 AM

mike reibling | splash in alternative

The Lake Amphibian fly-in is held at Killarney Ontario. The lodge is a little expensive but it’s nice and the owner is a pilot and very friendly. It’s located about 400 miles east of Jack. My wife Kristle and I spent 3 days there a few weeks ago. It’s in a protected channel so the water is calm most of the time and there is a runway within walking distance. I tried to post a link below but it looks like it didn't work.

YouTube - Lake Amphibian Killarney (Ont.) Fly-In 2008

07-06-2010, 10:30 AM

Fred Lohr | seawind flyin

I'm sorry to hear Tom and Sandy are unable to host the flyin, hope things are ok.

I could probably host this in Maryland again if the group would like to.

A few years ago we held it at Bay Bridge Airport, which was close to motels, restaurants and annapolis. There is also a new indoor facility at Massey aerodrome (MD1) that would serve well as a meeting place. They have a turf runway that is in great shape and an interesting number of airplanes being restored. They are off the beaten path a bit more though closer to chestertown, MD. I would be happy to host a gathering one nite like before.

let me know what you all think.


07-06-2010, 12:57 PM

Tom Saccio | Splash-In

Thank you for coming forward Fred. The last time we did it at your place it is wonderful. I don't think that the group could ask for a better venue. If it's at all possible Sandy and I will be there.

Tom Saccio

P.S. Both places however seem great.

07-08-2010, 02:46 AM

keithw | 2010 Splash Inn

Hi Seawinders and Fred -----Your offer to host the Splash In sounds wonderful to me I sure enjoyed it two years ago so keep us posted. I will plan on being there. Oct 1 2 3 ???? Keith Walljasper

07-12-2010, 07:05 PM



Count me in! Is 'Breeze Croft' your place?


Guillaume de Ramel


401 662-5477


07-12-2010, 08:18 PM

Fred Lohr

yes that is the place, it is listed in and other sites as 05MD for the airstrip and 23MD for the and seaplane area. Not everyone is ready to tackle a rolling grass strip though, and my ramp only works at high tide,so depending on how things work out, we might end up using either MD1 (massey aerodrome) or w29 (baybridge). IF you want to google earth breezecroft, try my adress 9860, breezecroft lane, chestertown, MD 21620

The date can stay the same if that suits people, which I believe was early october. I will post more information later, and will watch this site to see who else might be interested in coming. If there is anyone else who would prefer to host this, its ok by me as well.

07-17-2010, 06:40 PM


I am good with any place. Let me know if I can help..!

Fred do you want to pick the dates?

Let me know so I can post the official notice.

07-30-2010, 02:06 PM


Please see events for current information re: the Splash-In

08-01-2010, 10:23 PM

keithw | 2020 Splash Inn

Hi Fred Count me in . P S Have you tore up anything on your plane latley? I have tried very hard to quit doing that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keith Walljasper

06-04-2010, 09:16 PM

keithw | Airventure / 2010

Hi. Seawinders. Back on the Events page is buried this "THREAD" from5/23/2010 which reads as follows: Here it is Entry time again for the Airventure Cup Race. Race start location, Mitchell South Dakota direct to Oshkosh Wisc. The racers will arive at Mitchell on the 24th July and race on Sunday the 25th. I'm flying it again this year (Ninth Year for N80CC) I've always enjoyed the thrill of (The Race) but it's has not been the same since other Seawinds have droped out Art Culver George Osborn Mike Bowes. I would love to see some of the current flying Seawinds enter and fly. It's a thrill of a life time. For information go online and follow the promts. Or call Keith Walljasper 309 530 3097 or and I will answer any questions etc. It has always been real neatas you end up at Oshkoshat the start of the Air Show/ Celebration Keith N80CC

06-07-2010, 09:12 PM

mike reibling | Well Keith

I'm thinking of attending......Do you think you can keep up?

Mike Reibling

06-08-2010, 07:44 AM


Sounds like Keith is about to meet his match.....fight - fight...... Good Luck to both.....

06-27-2010, 09:12 PM

keithw | MIKE R Air Venture Cup

Hi Mike Did you get all signed up fo the Airventure Cup Race Sure hope so! Also to all the other Seawinders --------Its not to late See my earlier post and go for it!!!!!!!! Keith Walljasper N80CC

06-27-2010, 09:34 PM

mike reibling | The race

I am waiting for my insurance to come through with the paper work.

Mike R

07-04-2010, 07:22 PM

keithw | Mike Air Race Insurance

Hi Mike I talked with Dick Keyt tonight and he said that he could help you with the insrrance part of the air race req. Dick is a long time race participant and this year is handling insurance for EAA. Dicks telephone number is (817 279 7590 His Fax. is 817 573 8926 and email Good luck and see you in Mitchel SD Keith Walljasper N80CC

07-06-2010, 08:03 AM

mike reibling | race

Thanks Kieth,

If I don't get a response today I will give him a call.

PS. I hope this is all about the fun because I just lost 5 knots off my speed on the trip out to Nova Scotia and I'll be dammed if I can find out why.

Mike R

07-08-2010, 02:36 AM

keithw | Airventurecup Race / 2010

Hi Mike Yes It,s all about fun. Ive flown it (this year will be the 9th year so you know its all about fun. Keith

07-13-2010, 09:27 PM

mike reibling | I'm off to the races

Kieth it looks like it's all good.

I got my insurance and I am good to go. I will see you there.

Mike Reibling

07-15-2010, 10:13 PM

keithw | 2010 Air Race

Mike You Made My Day GREAT GREAT See you there. Keith Walljasper N80 CC

06-29-2010, 05:04 PM

Mike | New Hold / Runway Crossing Procedures

New Runway Crossing Procedure

Notice Number: NOTC2372

Runway Crossing Procedure Change

Beginning June 30, 2010 , controllers will be required to issue explicit instructions to cross or hold short of each runway that intersects a taxi route.

"Taxi to" will no longer be used when issuing taxi instructions to an assigned take-off runway.

Instructions to cross a runway will be issued one at a time. Instructions to cross multiple runways will not be issued. An aircraft or vehicle must have crossed the previous runway before another runway crossing is issued.

This applies to any runway, including inactive or closed runways.

Changes will also be made to the Aeronautical Information Manual (AIM) and AIP to reflect the new procedures.

Never cross a hold line without explicit ATC instructions.

If in doubt ASK!

Reminder: You may not enter a runway unless you have been:

instructed to cross that specific runway;

cleared to take off from that runway; or

instructed to position and hold on that specific runway.

See for the Runway Safety notice. Click this next link for a video of the change. (You may have to copy and paste the links into your browser.)

For additional information, go to

Federal Aviation Administration

Air Traffic Organization

Office of Runway Safety

490 L'Enfant Plaza, SW, Suite 7225

Washington, DC 20024

06-28-2010, 04:45 PM

Mike | Seawind's Latest Newsletter

Summer 2010

06-23-2010, 03:01 PM

gderamel | Seawind photo contest

I couldn't resist... I might have to send this picture in to Seaplane mag.


Guillaume de Ramel


401 662-5477


06-23-2010, 03:45 PM


You have way to much time on your hands.....

06-23-2010, 05:53 PM

Jack Ardoyno | Cool!!

What a beautiful shot! This really is what the Seawind is all about. It don't get no better!


06-23-2010, 08:50 PM


Thanks Jack. The only thing(s) missing from this picture are the Coronas!


Guillaume de Ramel


401 662-5477


06-18-2010, 12:44 PM

Planemakers | N79DJ first flight

We here at Planemakers, Inc. would like to congratulate John Parks on the completion and first flight of his Seawind, N79DJ. So far he reports that it handles well. You can find some pictures of his airplane on our website at

Great job John. It looks great.

06-18-2010, 02:50 PM


Congrats John.......Hummmm, I cant see it from here. Any flying pictures..? Many safe flights.

06-18-2010, 08:09 PM

Tom Saccio

Congratulations John, It was a long time coming. Fly high and fly safe.

Hope to see you at the Splash-in in October in North Carolina.

Tom Saccio

06-18-2010, 08:32 PM



Dying to hear what you get for speeds with the new airfoil... +190kts?!


Guillaume de Ramel


401 662-5477


06-19-2010, 07:08 AM


New airfoil.....? do tell.....

06-19-2010, 06:47 PM


Hope I'm not speaking out of turn.... but one of the many improvements John made to his Seawind was to incorporate NASA's SATS airfoil design for his wing (see attached pic, note the cusp between the landing-light and wing). This combined with the twin-turbocharged Lycoming and other speed-mods galore - he's got to have one of fastest Seawinds flying.

John, if you're reading this, pleeeaassse share the details of your masterpiece!


Guillaume de Ramel


401 662-5477


06-20-2010, 08:27 AM

Jack Ardoyno | Congratulations!!

It's great to see you flying. Like Guillaume, I am eager to see your performance results from such a spectacular Seawind.

06-20-2010, 07:34 PM

jparks | N79DJ is flying

It's flying great. Here are some pics.Click image for larger version

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06-21-2010, 07:50 AM


Hi John,

Nice pictures although the prop is not turning and the plane is in the air. Are these real photos...?

The 1st picture L@@Ks as if it was taken after a water take off..? I can see some mist off the rear of the plane.

Can you take some close up's on the ground and send them to me.


06-21-2010, 02:35 PM

Ed Lynch | Congratulations!

Glad to see you in the air, after all! Best wishes for blue skies and tailwinds! Ed Lynch

06-21-2010, 03:01 PM



Are you still down in Fla....? Till When......?

06-21-2010, 10:06 PM

chadfey | N79DJ First Flight

Congratulations John. I know you've been working a long time on your bird. It is an exciting time I'm sure. I'm also interested in the flight details once they are available.

06-23-2010, 09:36 AM


Congtrats, John. Its a beautiful bird. Hope it flies as well as it looks. I sure miss the building process.

06-16-2010, 11:48 AM

mike reibling | Very cool place for Seawinds to stay

June 16th

Two days ago my wife Kristle and I set out for a trip from Western Canada to the Canadian Maritimes. We are currently at a wonderful place called Killarney Mountain Lodge in Killarney Ontario. This is the place that the Lake Amphibian guys have an annual event. We have been told that approx 40 planes arrive and park on the front lawn of the lodge during this event.

This place is great. There is a protected channel to land in, a nice ramp to taxi up on, and you can park on the lawn of the lodge. The owners are very seaplane friendly people. It does not get any better than this.

06-18-2010, 08:28 PM


Mike, thanks for the tip. It's great to get info like yours to fun Seawind destinations. We should have a whole separate category in the Forum for Seawind Travel Destinations!

If you haven't already, swing-by Henry's Fish Restaurant, San Souci Island, Georgian Bay, Lake Ontario.

Note: No ramp and the docks can be crowded with lots o'seaplanes.


Guillaume de Ramel


401 662-5477


03-29-2010, 01:43 PM

spenius | Seawind in Croatia

Dear friends Seawinders,

I am new to this post, I’ve read almost everything posted, I met some really nice guys on gathering with Planemakers and till now I had nothing to say because I have to learn and listen other builder’s experience. This is the process which sometimes going not too smooth or quick as you can expected but somehow I manage to finish my Seawind last September. Just right on time to be on display at air show in my home town. Needless to say that plane was really eye catcher. Due to birocracy slow movement I’ve got OK to start testing beginning of October which was within expectation till the moment I had nose gear collapse on one of high speed taxi running (very bad grass runway). That particularly moment I thought how this was ruining my day. I have no idea how lucky actually I was. The damage was not great, couple of Heim bearings and bulkhead repair. But this stopped process of testing because I need to get part from USA which finally arrived middle of November and in meantime you can imagine how I was feeling. Then mother nature get over and get us rain and snow which last till mid of March this year. Airport was closed all the time. That was right time for my planed trip to New York. In meanwhile I got idea to try flying Seawind with someone else in order to release some adrenalin on actually first test flight in my own.

Here it come part where I need something to say to all builders who didn’t finished their projects jet and plan to fly without getting any instructions for this particularly plane regardless on theirs flight experience. DO NOT DO THAT. It is absolutely essential to put GET INSTRUCTION part in Building manuals officially or through this post based on builder’s experience. This is best and cheapest insurance you can get in order to protect your investment and personal integrity literally.

That’s why I need to say thank you to guys from Planemakers who help me made my plane and directed me to Jack Ardyno (another great guy) who did his dedicated job to raise safety in flying Seawind. Thank you Jack, from bottom of my heart. That was non forgeting experience and that’s why I can say that I had luck on my nose gear collapse. Without these instructions, regardless of reading about Seawind performances, that wouldn’t be possible and what’s raised my confidence. I spent couple of enjoying days with Jack and I will do it again prior to my decision to get on the water for the first time.

Zoran Dinic

03-29-2010, 03:37 PM


Pictures, Pictures, Pictures...........did I say pictures.....

Hey Zoran, post some pictures...


03-30-2010, 05:05 PM


As soon as I come back which will be 17.of April. I will post some and will send you cd around mid May.



06-16-2010, 03:23 AM


Well, I did it.

Not as scheduled, but due to long period of rain, almost flood I was forced to be patient.

Finally sun show up, grass has been cut, runway dry and I have nothing to wait.

June 10, no wind, 95 degree early afternoon and I am good to go.

Unforgettable experience. Flight took less than an hour, one full stop landing and that is it.

Now I am fixing noticed misperfection and continuing to test plane.

Mike I didn't forget and CD follows.

06-16-2010, 07:01 AM


Nice....Real nice..! I'll be waiting for the picts..! Congrats, Many safe flights

06-16-2010, 08:31 PM

Tom Saccio | The Flight Instructor

I'm wondering if Jack Is giving discounts to all the people the he teaches to fly the Seawind, if they say nice things about him. This is getting very goushy. All the acolades. He's wonderful, He's terrific, don't try to fly the Seawind without going to Jack first. Must be giving kick backs.

Just kidding you Jack you deserve all the praise that is given to you.

Tom Saccio

06-17-2010, 11:08 AM

Jack Ardoyno | Fuggettaboutit!


Even though you're Italian, I am not sharing the kick backs.


06-17-2010, 10:30 PM

Jack Ardoyno

Congratulations to Zoran. There is nothing to compare to the rush of the first flight. Many happy and safe flights.


05-06-2010, 05:34 PM

Mike | New Link to Old Board

New Link to Old Board

From the home page......

If you scroll down to the bottom you will see:

"Seawind Pilots Association Old Discussion Board"

If you click there, it will take you to the old board without asking for another password.

While there;

"Home" will take you to the Web Site Home Page

Use your browser back arrow or button to get back to the New Forum

04-29-2010, 01:19 PM

Planemakers | Landing Light Brackets

Hi Guys,

Does anybody out there know where to get more of the landing light brackets that hold the bulb to the wingtip bulkhead?


John J

04-29-2010, 01:53 PM


Hi John,

Nope I don't other than making one.

Have you given any thought to changing the assembly to an auto headlamp assembly (with or without blinkers)..? Do you have a feel for which assembly might fit the wing..?

This has been on my to-do list.....

04-29-2010, 06:52 AM

Mike | Talk about homebuilt......

Talk about homebuilt.......This is on E-bay....

I am offering for sale an 'airplane' that I built for an Engineering class project (strength of materials class). I am trying to recoup some of my investment.

The assignment was to build a boat that would hold myself and my build partner while we made a circuit around a local lake. The only materials allowed were single ply cardboard, liquid nails, duct tape and paint. The paint used was UGL drylock basement sealer. I also have over 100 pictures depicting the build process.

The boat / plane performed flawlessly. It was powered by a small trolling motor (trolling motor and battery not included in auction!). It was very stable in use. The Wing and Fuselage are two seporate units (easier to transport). The fuselage rest over top of the wing and your weight holds it all together. With approximately 550 lbs (myself, partner, battery & motor) the draft was less than 3 inches. I do not recommend using this boat were wakes are present. A small lake pond would be excellent or it could be used in a cardboard boat regatta. It is also a great conversation piece.

The wing span is 16 foot and the body 13 foot long. Buyer will be responsible for pick up. I am not offering a shipping option due to the size of the boat. No guarantee of any kind is offered on this item. Buyer accepts item as is and any / all responsibility in it's use. Seller can not be held liable in any way what so ever from use of this item.

Thank you for looking and if you are serious about purchasing, I can send additional pictures, contact me through ebay. The boat is located in winston-Salem, NC.

Happy boating!

SEE IT in Action on Youtube!

03-25-2010, 06:31 PM

Jack Ardoyno | Welcome

Although some of you already have met him, I want to introduce Zoran Dinic to the rest. Zoran has finished his Seawind in Zagreb, Croatia (Hrvatska). He tried all last winter to fly it for the first time in Zagreb, but weather would not allow. Since he was in the US recently he called and asked to get some training here before he returned to Croatia.

We spent an intense, but pleasurable two days in Hayward working on fundamentals and I am happy to say he is returning home much better prepared to test his airplane.

Please join me in welcoming Zoran into the Seawind community.


03-26-2010, 01:55 PM



We here at Planemakers are glad you are ready to get flying.

Now it's time to start having fun.

03-26-2010, 03:13 PM


Welcome to the group. Many happy flights....!!

03-26-2010, 08:34 PM

Ed Lynch | Welcome!

Zoran----Welcome to the Seawind group! You sure did the right thing getting some instruction from Jack before flying your new plane. I wish you blue skies and tailwinds! Ed Lynch

03-29-2010, 09:09 AM

keithw | Zoran

Welcome to the flying Seawind group. You will love the plane and you sure started out right having Jack give you training before you go it alone. Good luck and Keep us posted on your progress at home. Keith Walljasper N80CC

03-20-2010, 02:49 PM

Mike | Seawind Is Back In The Air Again...!!

I received the following from Bud:

And this from G:

Flight Testing Begins For 'Soon-To-Be-Certified' Seawind

Full Flight Test Program To Be Conducted In Ottawa

After completing all the ground testing, the 'soon-to-be-certified' Seawind 300C received its flight permit and took its initial flight over Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Canada. The Canadian National Research Council (NRC) will perform the flight test piloting under the direction of DAR Chief Test Pilot Robert Erdos. The flight analytical work will be performed by John Taylor, who recently retired as Vice President of Engineering at Bombardier.

The Seawind will be manufactured at the company's 82,000-square-foot manufacturing and hangar facility at Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu Airport in Quebec, Canada.

The flight test aircraft was piloted on its first flight by Paul Kissman, and the NRC's Harvard chase plane was piloted by Anthony Brown, both of whom are NRC test pilots. The initial flight lasted about an hour, as Kissman got familiar with the amphibian. Richard Silva, President of Seawind, said, "The pilots reported the controls in pitch and roll were excellent. The doublet on the rudder was very good with a light two cycle Dutch roll to be expected on the close coupled amphibian. The power plant and aircraft systems all worked as designed and as expected."

After the debriefing, the Seawind was flown to Ottawa, where the full flight testing program will be conducted.

Silva said, "It will take about four weeks for the NRC to install the flight test instrumentation, after which full flight testing will begin. "We are looking forward to the completion of flight testing and the start up of production. We have a backlog of over 50 customer orders."

The Seawind program has been an on-and-off going program for a number of years and suffered its most significant setback after a fatal accident in 2007 claimed the life of a test pilot.

It is GREAT to hear they are back in the air again.

02-15-2010, 04:02 PM

Mike | Welcome Aboard

Welcome Aboard Robert from Calf. He is in the process of L@@King into purchasing either a kit or certified seawind.

Robert all here have a wealth of information, feel free to ask....!!

02-15-2010, 06:10 PM

raanderud | Lookey lu

Thanks Mike,

I have enjoyed the Seawind sites.

My plan is to buy either a finished home built or a certified plane.

Don't have the time, location or desire to build myself.

Love reading all the posts and information on the home builts. My hat is off to all who have finished their projects.

I have been looking at the pictures of the splash-in, Oshkosh and etc. Can not wait to get started. I WILL see you in the skies at a future date. Anybody in the California area that wants to have a buddy go flying, call me anytime. Cell 805-827-0593 Or if you are heading to a fly-in and want a co-pilot, call me.

Will have my pilots license this year.

I want to be a Seawinder.

02-15-2010, 05:34 PM

Mike | Classified Section

The Classified Section is now open for viewing by anyone at anytime; you do not need to be signed in to view. You do have to be signed to post.

02-06-2010, 01:13 PM

Mike | Canadian Seeking Information

Hi there,

I have been thinking about getting back into flying again (can better afford it) and looking at possibly purchasing a Seawind in conjunction with a co-owner in Canada and wanted to talk to some Canadian Seawind owners to get a Canadian licensing/airworthiness/insurance, etc perspective. I will most likely become a member, but wanted to chat with some existing members first.

Are you able to refer me to some folks, preferably in western Canada?


David Crawford

Senior Manager & Practice Leader

Sales and Indirect Tax Services

Grant Thornton LLP

Suite 900, 833 - 4th Avenue S.W.

Calgary, AB T2P 3T5

T +1 (403) 260-2533

C +1 (403) 880-0558

F +1 (403) 260-2571


Can someone give him a call and help him out.........

Please leave reply here if you do....


02-13-2010, 10:48 PM

seapilot1 | Western Canada

Hi - Best part of Canada;

I'm in the lower 48, in Northern California- Looking for a Seawind Partner Or ?

What part of Western Canada?


01-28-2010, 11:18 AM

gdermael | Dornier CD2 Seastar

Granted, it's not a Seawind... but nonetheless it's great to see someone (Dornier) invest in seaplanes.

And, gotta love the shot of the old Dornier taking off in 5' seas!



Guillaume de Ramel


401 662-5477


01-28-2010, 04:51 PM


Hi G,

I saw it in Oshkosh....NICE......

12-25-2009, 10:26 AM

Tom Saccio | Merry Christmas

First Sandy and I would like tgo wish everyone a very Happy Holiday. We hope that the New Year will bring joy and prosperity.

Also if you check out the Certified Seawind site, Dick Silva has published a winter newsletter. Check it out.

Safe flying,

Tom and Sandy Saccio

12-25-2009, 06:33 PM


And to you and Sandy also Tom......

Tom's link:

11-12-2008, 07:08 PM

Mike | **Lets Get Started**


As you will note, this forum is different from the old board.

As time goes on we will be moving over all the old topics from the old board to this new forum. You will find the old topics in the new Categories or you can use the search button to find whatever you want. As the topics are moved over, we will place them in the Category that best fits the majority of the content. You will know its from the old board because the title will begin with a number (the number of the old boards post). The date of the post and the poster will remain the same.

When you want to start a new topic (now called a thread) all you have to do is pick a Category (General Discussion, Classifieds, Composites, Auto Pilot...etc...) that your thread best fits in, click on that Category and click on New Thread, enter a title, some text, scroll down and click on submit and Wallla; you have posted a new thread.

**Within the Category you will find the (Thread = Topic)**

*Everytime you sign on you should click on "New Posts". You can find it on the tool bar above.

-Clicking on "New Posts"will show you all the new posts since you have been on last.

......Once In........

*Simply click on the thread you want to read and your in.

-Once in a thread you will be able to "Post" a reply by clicking on the "Post Reply"

*Enter a title (Remember this is a title for your response, not a title to a new thread)

- Push your tab button to enter the message box.

-Enter the text then click on "Submit Reply"

Congrats......You just added your response to the thread


From the main log in page......

*Choose a category that best fits your "topic" by clicking on that category.

-Click on "NEW THREAD"

-Enter a title

-Push your tab button to enter the message box.

-Enter the text then click on "Submit Reply"

Congrats......You just added a new thread (topic)




11-22-2008, 08:04 AM

Mike | *Internal Seawind Forum Messaging*

Want to send a message to someone in this forum?

While you are viewing a post, you can click on the posters name and a drop down box will appear.

You can send a private message (within this forum) or you can email them.

To Retrieve Messages: At the top right of each page you will see Welcome, and your user name. Below that you will see Private Messages, click on Private Messages. Jump to the folder you want and read.

11-29-2008, 01:28 PM

Mike | New Posts

If you are wondering why you do not see "New Posts" it's because only the posts dated now will show up. The posts that I am reposting have dates that pre-date this forum.

As I find posts that are a safety issue I will mark them with a yellow triangle. Goto the Landing Gear category for an example.

12-03-2008, 08:53 AM

Mike | Green Light

Have you been wondering why the green light is on next to your user name...?

When you sign in the green light turns on to let other users know you are in the forum. If you are reading a thread (post) and scroll past a green light....he / she is reading also.

12-03-2008, 09:29 PM

Mike | Get Me Back To The Main page

A quick way to get back to the main page is to click once on the seawind picture.

12-04-2008, 07:20 AM

Mike | The albums are not active yet

The albums are not active yet.

12-05-2008, 07:32 PM

Mike | ADDING Pictures

Adding pictures to a post is very easy to do.....

After you type your message here






scroll down to "Additional Options" below.

Click on "Manage Attachments".

A new window will open.

Click on the "Browse" button and choose the picture you want to upload.

Click on "Upload", The picture will now upload into the forum. (Max 8).

When all are uploaded, close the Manage Attachment window.

Goto the bottom of the "Additional Options" and SAVE CHANGES.

You just uploaded pictures with your post.....!

12-24-2009, 08:01 AM

Mike | Merry Christmas

Merry Christmas to all and a healthy and happy new year !

And carefull out there.......

12-24-2009, 08:26 AM


A Merry Christmas to you too Mike, and to all the other members of the ISPA as well.

John J, Chris D and the rest of us here at Planemakers, Inc.

12-05-2009, 09:25 AM

Mike | L@@King for Info

1- A while ago I saw a photo of a seawind that was hanging in the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum. Does anyone know where I saw that picture or do you have any info?

2- I am still looking for registry info. There a many kits not accounted for.

Visit the registry annoucement ofen to see whats new.

On a side note: HOLY CRAP, the amount of emails I have received from all over the world is amazing. Every day I am getting more information to complete the registry update. PLEASE keep sending the emails to me.

12-11-2009, 08:06 AM


It's amazing what can be found on the internet....

Does anyone know anything about this group....?

Make sure you goto the "GALLERY" and L@@K at the seawind door!!

12-11-2009, 12:05 PM

Tony Jurcan | Seawind @ EXpo 86 in Vancouver


I believe the Seawind you are refering to was at EXPO 86 in Vancouver,BC


12-11-2009, 04:19 PM


Thank you are correct...

Thats the picture I saw a long time ago!!

12-11-2009, 09:14 PM

Fred Lohr

wow, we need to invite this fellow from south africa to the next seawind fly in.

pretty impressive

12-12-2009, 09:26 AM



I'll email him and let him know

I notice his gallery of photos is not viewable now.

Make sure you check kit 54, scroll down to comments, click on his link,

MAKE SURE you view all of the pictures, the door is very interesting!!

11-21-2009, 06:15 PM

Mike | 11-21-09 New Items

Below the categories you will find new areas in which to immerse yourself.

SAM'S are "Seawind Airworthiness Modifications" Posted here after the lenghty discussion from the main categories, they are Modifications That Seawind Builders Have Offered As Solutions To Problems. They will Include Bulletins & Alerts that were in the manuals. This area has been added so YOU the Builder and RE-Builder can publish valid safety concerns and solutions. These posts (a condensed list) should be concise since the detailed explanation will be posted in the proper category.

SEAWIND REGISTRY - One click on the main header will bring you to the old registry. Clicking on the sub header will open the new registry. The idea is to track progress by letting the "builder " add notes. The notes should be about the progress of the building process only. Since only the builder will be able to add notes; questions should be placed in the proper category so all can view and answer. If you see information on the net such as "seawind for sale" or other info, you can forward it to me and I will post it. Side note: Using the search feature will prove to be helpfull here.

SEAWIND PILOTS WEBSITE will transport you there.

SEAWIND PILOTS OLD DISCUSSION BOARD will eventually take you there without a password.

As always - If you have any ideas about the formentioned, please reply below.

11-26-2009, 10:28 AM

rwolf | Password to gain access to New ItemsMike,


Sorry if I missed this but my normal login password does not allow me access to the New Items or VBulletin Messages areas of the site.

How do I get the correct password?


Dick Wolf

11-26-2009, 12:46 PM


Hi Dick,

Try it now. I was testing a way to password protect each sub category and forgot to set it back.


11-26-2009, 02:47 PM

Editing Registry


How does one edit and add Builder's Comments to the registry section? I've tried everything I can think of without success.There are errors and missing data in my plane's section I'm trying to fix.


Dick Wolf

11-26-2009, 02:58 PM



Originally Posted by rwolf View Post


How does one edit and add Builder's Comments to the registry section? I've tried everything I can think of without success.There are errors and missing data in my plane's section I'm trying to fix.


Dick Wolf

The registry section is not really ready yet. Each kit number will eventually be under the kit owners name as the poster instead of mine. Once that is done the posts will only be entered or changed by the kit owner. Once the main body of information is correct, the builder should add "threads" under the main post to update their own registry.

Go to to see the format

11-29-2009, 01:00 AM


Seawind Registration

The new registration is almost complete. If your kit and name appear in the list, you can edit your information. Please do not add to the information in the 1st post....only edit and save. To add new information, while viewing your information; "Add Continuing Builders Comments By Clicking On "Post Reply" Below:" your main post.

If you can't get in or your info is not there, please send me a note.

10-08-2009, 08:44 PM

jar59nh | Changing of the guard

HI All,

I think it's about time for me to hand the reins over on our website. I have enjoyed working on the site but now need to concentrate more on my local EAA chapter activities. It's probably about time anyways as some fresh blood will liven things up.

Anyone interested in taking over the site and possibly freshening up the public web side, please let me know. You can email me at

It's been a pleasure working on the site these past 5 years. I will still be building and on the site.

I have learned a tremendous amount for you all and I thank you for that.


John Ricciotti

10-11-2009, 05:49 PM

Jack Ardoyno | Default


I want to thank you for all the time and effort you have put into the web site over the last five years. It has been hard work and maybe not always appreciated by everyone. I know I have appreciated your efforts and wish you the best in your EAA Chapter work and the in the completion of your Seawind.

I initially had some difficulties with the new forum because it was "new". My problems have disappeared after spending about ten minutes with Mike Witkowski on the phone.

I have had a number of talks with Mike about the entire web site and I am heartened to know that he would be willing to take the responsibility for running the entire web site and the membership administration.

I heartily recommend Mike for the job. He is knowledgeable, and, what is every bit as important, enthusiastic, even passionate, about the work.

While I understand that there is still some unfamiliarity with the forum, I think a short tutorial with Mike on the phone will clear this up for anyone still having difficulties.

I believe that Mike can make the web site an exciting resource for the Seawind community.


10-11-2009, 10:03 PM

Tom Saccio | Changing of the Guard

I would also like to thank you John for all the hard work you put in over the years on this web site. You picked it up when no one else wanted to do it. It is a thank less job, But on behalf of all the Seawinders Thanks again for all your hard work.

That all being said, I think the Mike Witkowski would be the best person to take the site over. He has done outstanding work with the forum. So I say let him continue.

Tom Saccio N516SW

10-12-2009, 09:48 AM

Robehouse | Default

Howdy John, I too would like to thank you for all your years of service to the cause. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Jerry Robelen N521GR

10-12-2009, 11:39 AM

Ed Lynch | Thanks for all your hard work, John

Thanks for all the effort and time you've put in to make our website so good, John. Now it's time to finish your Seawind!! Ed

10-13-2009, 07:01 AM

rwolf | Changing of the Guard


Let me add my thanks for your leadership of the ISPA web activities and my endorsement of Mike to continue the missionary work.

Dick Wolf

10-13-2009, 08:51 AM

Fred Lohr | Default

John, Super job on the website. Your work made this a viable site which has been a huge benefit to all of us seawinders. If you are ready to pass the torch, i agree that mike would be the guy to tackle this usually thankless job. Thanks again for a job well done. By the way, i took your advice on how to close off that rudder area and I am very happy with it. Did you ever post those pictures?

10-13-2009, 12:43 PM

billhayes | Default

Thanks John, you did a great job. Bill

10-14-2009, 09:53 PM

keithw | changing of the guard

John Thanks so very much for all your time and effort in running the web site for us. Hey---Get that Seawind finished so we can see you out at our Splash Inn, Air Race, and Osh Kosh-- Sun-n-Fun Etc Keith Walljasper N80CC I have had Mike help me with the new system and think he would be great to be the Web Master===== Keith

10-17-2009, 04:20 PM

Russ Kotlarek | Thank you John


As every member here I cannot thank you enough for all the time, energy, and fairness you have given the site. You oversight will missed and your insight will continue to be heavily appreciated by all.

I personally feel a sense of loss but possibly it shall turn to a gain as you finish your Seawind and move into the flight aspects of this plane we love so much.

Obviously, as you have seen the EAA chapter can be a sound platform for growth of any builder or pilot. I have enjoyed our chapter and your chapter will only benefit from your kind assistance just as all of us here have.

Thank you again !


11-11-2009, 12:19 PM

rwolf | Changing My Account Title


Apparently I don't know how to send you a private email on this site because I sent you one several days ago and I'm guessing you didn't receive it. My question was how to change the "junior member" designation to "flying" that appears under my account name "rwolf". This only occurs in the members list as far as I can tell. I appreciate the compliment but in the interests of accuracy I'd like to change it.


Dick Wolf

11-11-2009, 04:17 PM

Mike | Default

Hi Dick,

I will be more than happy to change that for you. - Done....


If you click on my name you will get a pull down box. From there you can email


Click on send PM, Add a Title, Add a message, and then Submit message

Try it again so I can make sure there aren't any software problems....

11-01-2009, 05:29 PM

Mike | Kit # - Serial # - Production #

I was under the impression that the kit and serial numbers were the same. Is this true....? Which came 1st the chicken or the egg..?

11-01-2009, 10:13 PM

Tom Saccio | Kit#

The kit number and serial number are not the same. My kit number is 143 and my serial number is 61. Tom saccio

11-02-2009, 06:19 AM

Mike | Default

I am trying to update the Registry Data Table on the website.

When were the kit numbers issued...?

11-03-2009, 05:40 AM

rwolf | Dick Wolf

Kit numbers were assigned at the time of kit ordering. Serial numbers were assigned on request to SNA, typically near the end of construction. The serial number is required to register the plane with the FAA.

11-03-2009, 07:47 AM

Mike | Default

If "any" company does not exist, how would one register a kit if one doesn't have or can't get a serial number...?

11-04-2009, 01:04 PM

Larry Brunzlick | Serial numbers

This is a copy and paste of post number 3250 from the old forum. I plan to follow this route and not bother with the seawind company.

Posted by 'Hank' 04/06/08

I spoke with one of the managers of my local FSDO about this on Friday. He said when licensing an experimental/amateur built aircraft you DO NOT need a Serial Number from Seawind. That just may be for there own records but not for the FAA. He went on to say that theoretically, every Seawind could be S/N 001, because Seawind is the Model not the MAKE, you as the "manufacturer" are the MAKE. He also said that if you happen to built 2 Seawinds, then you could not use the same S/N at that time. One other note here, Paul said that, "A Serial Number wasn't issued until the owner requested it. Usually because he wants to get an N-Number", this is NOT correct, you do not even need to have an aircraft to register an N-Number, check out the FAA website and see how many registered N-Numbers are there with no aircraft listed, I have one myself!!!! Paul also said that, "The Serial Number, when assigned, should be stamped on metal manufacturers plate installed on the tail of the aircraft by the kit builder/owner when it is completed." This is true, but it does NOT have to be the Seawind S/N that they give you, it can be any number you want, even lets say S/N2008-000001000012345. Remember, YOU are the Manufacturer, you give it the S/N that you want, you can even make the S/N and the N-Number the same if you prefer. The FAA does not really care, so long as there is a S/N there that makes it unique to that aircraft. When anyone has these types of questions, do what I do, call your local FAA FSDO and ask them, they are the governing body, not Seawind, they just manufactures the kit parts for you to finish, because they say it so, does not make it entirely correct. As for Duane and his compilation of parts.... you should not have any trouble getting this approved as an experimental/amateur built aircraft, as you are the Manufacturer of those parts and do not need their S/N for you to go to the FAA with. Good Luck and I am sure I will get a lot of crap over this.


10-25-2009, 07:48 AM

Mike | Copying Old posts To This Forum

I have once again started copying the old board posts to this forum. The posts will start with the same number as on the old board and will most likely take some time to move 3,000+ posts. Use the search feature within this forum to gather information.

10-22-2009, 03:44 PM

Mike | LOGO, avatar.....whatever

I am L@@King for a good.....nope scratch that......I am L@@King for a great logo we can use for the International Seawind Pilots Associations website and forum, I am tired of seein that big plane in the upper left corner...!!!

ANY Ideas...

10-06-2009, 07:09 PM

Mike | Forum changes

Greetings & Salutations, I hope all are well.

As per your requests at the splash-in, I made some changes today:

1-There is a new Category named MEDICAL

Feel free to post anything medical related.

2-Phone Numbers

Within your personal “User CP” control panel you will now be able to add your phone number(s) if you wish.

-In the blue bar across the top of the main page click on User CP

-Your control panel

-Your Profile

-Click on …. Edit Your Details

-Scroll down to the bottom and add your numbers


If you want anything else added, let me know…….

3-Avatar Size The avatar size can not be enlarged or decreased. Some time in the near future all the avatars will be the same size. The issue is the amount of space provided by the web host or the people we pay to host our site. We are allotted 250mb and we currently have 5mb left. If we add more pictures and enlarge existing pictures we will have to purchase more space. So with this in mind, avatar size will remain small. This brings up another issue of the pictures we are uploading directly into the forum. It is better if we can link to another site to view the pictures.


Passwords can be changed by you at any time by clicking on “User CP”.

-In the blue bar across the top of the main page click on User CP

-Your control panel

-Your Profile

-Click on ….Edit Email & Password


10-17-2009, 04:30 PM

Russ Kotlarek | Default Login and passwords


Is it possible to allow us to assign our own "screen name" I for one obviously cannot recall my name. Seems easy but if ti is case sensitive then it could be a number of ways. likewise it coudl be Russ, or Russell I can never remember it. However, I do use a common screen name in most other sites and if I could use that my life for one would be easier.

Likewise, being as there is nothing of critical security here and the likelihood of someone trying to hack into our site seems minimal can we remove the 5 count login security and let us try forever if we are not able to recall the login and password, ...



10-18-2009, 01:37 PM

Mike | Default


Originally Posted by Russ Kotlarek View Post


Is it possible to allow us to assign our own "screen name" I for one obviously cannot recall my name. Seems easy but if ti is case sensitive then it could be a number of ways. likewise it coudl be Russ, or Russell I can never remember it. However, I do use a common screen name in most other sites and if I could use that my life for one would be easier.

Likewise, being as there is nothing of critical security here and the likelihood of someone trying to hack into our site seems minimal can we remove the 5 count login security and let us try forever if we are not able to recall the login and password, ...



Hi Russ,

*I belive the screen name you refer to is the user name...? If so, currently the only way the user name can be changed is to have me do that in software. There aren't any provisions in the code to allow this request directly from the user. signed on.......Ok. Let me know what you want and I'll change it

*Granted, there really isn't anything of national security on this site however several times a week IP's from china, russia, and other european countries try to get in. I have tracked several IP's recently to china. Those that constantly try to get in are banned from trying. In reference to your request I sorted thru the software/code and again presently there isn't any way to adjust this number.

The password can be changed in your "CP" control panel at any time. Once changed, I can't see them.

10-06-2009, 04:02 PM

Tony Jurcan | Canopy Seal

Does anyone have source for canopy molding/weatherstring?

10-06-2009, 05:14 PM

Tom Saccio| Weather Stripping

Try Good luck Tony.

Tom Saccio

08-20-2009, 09:27 AM


Any builders in Connecticut, Mass or RI that could lend a hand with the installation of my new horizontal stabilizer and elevator? Replacing the 'Big Tail' with the original.

I've got access to another airplane; could pick you up (car or plane).

Also, I'd need to borrow your template that sets the negative 3degrees angle-of-incidence, it would be greatly appreciated. The template drawing is missing from my set of docs.

Guillaume de Ramel
Newport, RI (UUU)
401 662-5477

08-14-2009, 07:20 AM

Mike | Default Online Users

If you look at the bottom of the main category page you will see the following:

What's Going On?

Currently Active Users: 1 (1 members and 0 guests)

Most users ever online was 12, 08-03-2009 at 07:42 PM.

Over the past 24 hours 17 users / members have loged in. We average 12 a day.

05-06-2009, 05:28 AM

Mike | Default Seeking Pictures Of You Plane

I am Seeking Pictures Of You Plane for the forum. Dreaming, Building, or Flying........send them to



06-22-2009, 06:43 PM

Mike | Default

If you want me to set your avitar....(pict next to your name) email me a pict.

06-30-2009, 01:51 PM

Mike | Default

Avitar's are showing up slowly but surely......any more..??

Email me a pict...!!

07-24-2009, 04:45 PM

Mike | Default

Still seeking pictures, now you know why..........

06-26-2009, 07:05 PM

Mike | Default Latest Seawind Newsletter

Latest seawind Newsletter......Great to see things are going again...

06-21-2009, 11:08 PM

rwolf | Default Tow bars

The tow bar I'm using slips over the nosegear axel ends which have castellated nuts/cotter keys. This messes up the cotterkeys. Two questions: 1) How are you interfacing your towbar (I seem to recall the factory providing one at one time that had ends that were inserted into the holes in the nosegear structure. Does anyone use this approach?) 2) Are castellated nuts/cotterkeys the recommended way to secure the nosegear onto its axel? Are self locking nuts a no-no here?

06-22-2009, 04:10 PM

Fred Lohr | Default

I went thru three different styles of towbars before i settled on the tow bar i use most. the first one was like yours same problem, plus it would pop off with turning. Next I tried piper style forks that fit into fittings tapped into the side of the wedge shaped aluminum area at the bottom of the tube. It was haard to get on and off. Then i found a big heavy tow bar with a tapered 1 inch cone that fit neatly into the lower most "lightening" hole drilled in the fork. This is about six feet long and has a ball hitch on the other end so I could tow the aircraft to and from the boat ramp with a vehicle or tractor. This was too much weight for just backing the plane out of the hanger or to take with me in the plane. So my latest and best one is a collapsable towbar, with 3/16 or so spring loaded prongs that fit into holes drilled into sides of the nose gear. (again, the wedge shaped solid aluminum piece at the bottom of the tube) This has been the best so far for light pushing and pulling. Never comes loose, it fits in the nose storage area. I bought it from aircraft spruce.

On your other question, I eventually found castellated, self locking nuts to use in this location. When it comes to having your pants fall down, belt and suspenders, eh. I have had every other possible self inflicted mishap with the nose gear and wanted to avoid having the axle fall off. However I do not know of any cases where that has happened.

06-22-2009, 05:31 PM

Mike | Default

I think this what you are talking about as an alternative to clamping onto the nuts......bout 30.5" long and will fit in the front bagage compartment. Tractor is an old $50.00 garden tractor....even came with a plow for the winter time.

06-22-2009, 06:15 PM

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Default Tow Bars

Check out this web site for tow bars. for tow bars. The one that I use is the universal type. It locks in and you can hook it up to a vehicle to tow the plane. It works great

Tom Saccio

06-23-2009, 06:39 AM

rwolf | Default Tow Bar Info

Thanks, Fred, Mike and Tom. You've given me plenty of options. Mike, who supplies the bar in your photo?

Dick Wolf

06-23-2009, 07:33 AM

Mike | Default

Good question..... When I purchased the plane it came with it. I cut off the "T" and welded on a box sleeve. I wouldn't think it would be hard to create...

06-12-2009, 08:35 AM

bcarlson | Default Let's go back to the old forum...

I have been adjusting to this new bulletin board system, but sometimes my experiences have been somewhat difficult. Formerly when we had an occurrence that was of vital interest to us all, we immediately knew about it because of the user friendly nature of the old ISPA “Hangar” bulletin board.

With the new system however, sometimes the myriad of tabs and page changes required to get to a post can be cumbersome.

Perhaps this site could work better, or could be improved if there were fewer categories so we didn’t have to keep switching back and forth between categories, and then paging through several pages to see the posts (perhaps the pages could be made longer so there were fewer of them). These are just a couple of suggestions. Surely there are others.

I’d suggest we see what can be done to simplify and improve this site.

What do others think? Can something be done to simplify this forum?

Thank you for your effort and assistance in providing this forum Mike.

Fly Safe, BC

06-12-2009, 07:21 PM

rwolf | Default ISPA Site User Friendliness

I'm sorry to admit that I've had trouble with this site also. It took me quite a while to figure out how to post a new topic. I finally concluded I needed to start a new "thread". This term is typical of the computer world. Is there some reason it's not called a "subject"? Is starting a new thread the way to start a new subject correctly?

06-13-2009, 09:49 AM

bcarlson | Default

Greetings Dick. According to Wikipedia the term "thread" is a computer programming term, but you're correct, in this forum it just means "subject" and starting a new thread is the correct way to start a new subject. Once started, as people reply to the message they "stay in the thread," and viewers can then "follow the tread" of replies.

Thank you for replying to my post. I was beginning to wonder if anyone was reading it (even though the new forum allows us to see the data and users on-line).

After posting it, I also feared that folks would take the title of my thread too seriously. I really don't believe we should go back to the old "hangar" forum. It reminds me of the old joke about how many Seawinders it takes to change a light bulb; "Two, one to change it, and one to lament about how much better the old one was."

There are a number of things I really like about this new forum. Like the following:

- Text can be posted without embedding HTML code like in the old forum.

- Photos and other files can be attached and seen from the post.

- On line spell-checking as you type (sometimes, but it doesn't seem to be there in "Quick Reply" mode).

- I really like the feature that we can edit our posts after they have been made.

- Of course there are others...

It is good to see more posts being made as we go. I'm hoping that our members will experiment and help make this forum better as we go.

Fly safe, BC

06-13-2009, 02:07 PM

Tom Saccio | Default The Old Forum

My opinion is that we should thank Mike for trying to improve this web site. Many of us may find it difficult to navigate it, but with a little effort it can be accomplished. I am not computer literate as many others might be but I seemed to have worked it out. I'm not saying that the site is perfect. It could use tweaking. Since I don't know how to improve it, I will not criticze it. I'm sure Mike would welcome any suggestions that would help improve this site. I think that the old site was too large and everything was all grouped together in such a way that it was hard to find things. This site separates everthing and groups them into catagorys that makes it easier to follow. Before we condemn this site and Mike for putting it together, lets come up with some suggestions as to how to improve it, not just critize it. I for one would like to thank Mike for all the time and effort he has put into doing it. I,m sure he's made a bundle of money on it.

Tom Saccio

06-13-2009, 02:14 PM

bcarlson | Default The New Forum

Hi Tom. I agree with everything you said. You know me well enough by now to know that any criticism I might make is meant to be strictly constructive.

How about a report on your Seawind flying adventures?


06-17-2009, 11:59 AM

Mike | Default Hummmmmmm

I knew there would be some opposition to the new forum before it went on line. Since the forum has been online; I have been fielding questions and solving issues. Most of the issues are navigation of the site….”Oh I didn’t know I could do that” is a common comment. Some of the problems have been computer issues. Because I am keeping in touch with those who ask for help there has been as much if not a better turnout then the old board; the stats prove this.

There are at least ten (10) seawind members signing in every day to see what’s new. Thirteen (13) yesterday and Fifteen (15) today. Thirty One DIFERENT members have signed on within the past 30 days. If you were to look back at the posts and the time between the posts on the old board you would find that the old board was not used as much as this one is giving the same amount of time.

Building a plane is complicated! This forum format is not complicated. The old board does not have any of the good features that this forum has. You talk about posting…. In the old board everybody was jumping posts within the topic, nothing was in order. Try to read about a topic and it would take some time matching up the post numbers, now that’s ridiculous! No search feature! Not supported by the site! Eats more memory! Couldn’t edit posts………….the list goes on.

When you sign on – Immediately click on “NEW POSTS” this will bring up a list of all the threads, posts, topics since you have signed on last. Click on the post and read. When done click on “New Posts” if there was more than one and the list shows up again. Click on the seawind picture to go back to the beginning. I posted a “lets get started” sticky. How many have looked at it? This sticky will inform you of how to use the forum, then try experimenting; after all isn’t that what we do?

One of the main reasons I suggested this new forum is because I wanted to improve the image and encourage more participation of the seawind community. This will happen over time. Hell, the present web site hasn’t been updated for years; excluding the calendar and splash in page which I updated recently.

The Vans website people had the foresight to get off their old board and on to this new forum software so that their needs would be satisfied now and in the future. APOA also runs this software for there forum. This is not only for the present but also for the future!!

So what now? We go back to the dark ages because a few have a few issues. Some of the most vocal have not even asked me for help! Others have emailed and I have called them, answered questions and taken suggestions. How many really have problems with the forum? One member has major computer problems. He went to another computer and all worked well. Out of 56 members maybe 5 have issues. I guess it’s easier to complain than it is to ask for help!

I have spent a lot of time and money getting this to work; to pull the plug at this time without giving it a chance would be service to a few and a disservice to all.

06-17-2009, 07:22 PM

kiwi | Default Forum

I for one think that the new site is great.

I appreciate all the work that was put into it on our behalf.


06-18-2009, 03:52 PM

Fred Lohr | Default

please count me among those who like the new format and find it to be manageable and more useful in many ways. I find most other forums I visit use this same type of system. Thanks mike.

06-18-2009, 06:49 PM

bcarlson | Default Thank you Mike.

Greetings Mike and all.

Hmm, it would seem an apology is in order.

I certainly didn’t mean to offend anyone, and believe me, after being involved with this group since the beginning, and being the editor of the ISPA site for more than two years, I know how much work and expense is involved.

I think you’ve done a great job setting up this new forum Mike. Thank you.

It is good to see that there are so many who like the new system. I’m sure everyone will adjust in time.

Thanks again Mike, sorry to have ruffled your feathers.

Fly safe,

Brent Carlson

06-19-2009, 03:28 PM

Mike | Default

With my last post I wanted to respond to an email I had received a few days ago. I wanted my response to be public so others would know what was going on behind the scenes and give all a chance to voice their comments and concerns. Thank you for all those who responded both here and in private messages.

One of the main reasons I suggested this new forum is because I wanted to improve the image and encourage more participation of the Seawind community. I believe we have started to accomplish this. As a group and with the progression of “Seawind”; I can see this forum as well as the website growing quickly over the next few years. To keep the interest of all we need to update the forum as well as the website and keep it updated. Changes and or updates have been made over the past few weeks and will continue as new information is collected.

I picked this format simply because it is the most widely used format in the world. I own two other forums and I am an administrator of another which gives me the insight into upcoming changes and possibilities for this forum. As I mentioned before, when the dust settles I will start to customize the forum to meet all of our needs…….as long as the plug-ins (software) exist and those changes can be made. I would like to l@@k at software that could place a few small ad’s (nothing fancy, business cards) in the forum that would defray costs and might eliminate dues. This might be attractive for current members.

Use this forum to inform and enlighten the members of our seawind activities.

Moving On…….

As always, I am available to answer questions and help with the forum and website in any way I can. If you need help; email me with your phone number and a good time for me to call you. If you have your computer fired up at the time I call that will make things go smoother. Suggestions are ALWAYS WELCOME!!

PS - There are ways to customize what you see when you sign on that are user specific. Over the next few days I will try to post some of these so you can decide if and how you will view the forum.

04-26-2009, 07:35 PM

Ed Lynch | PROUD PARENTS of a bouncing baby seawind 4-26-09 2,600lbs

Default N30EL finally flies!

After 8+years and 7000+ hours, Seawind N30EL took off from Spruce Creek Fly-In, and made a successful and uneventful first flight. No problems, other than the usual loose nut behind the stick! So I live to fly another day...Ed Lynch

04-27-2009, 01:38 AM

billhayes | Default

Fantastic! Ed, congrats looking forward to seeing your bird at splash in, Bill

04-27-2009, 06:12 AM

Russ Kotlarek | Default

Being onsite to witness Ed's spectacular day I must say it gives great hope to the fact maybe we can finish a seawind if we keep on it....

Ed once again GREAT job !!! I was thrilled to be invited to watch and look forward to flying side by side some day in the nearer future.


04-27-2009, 08:01 AM

chadfey | Default

Congratulations to you and Mary Lou on your accomplishment. I'm sure it was a highlight after many years of work.


04-27-2009, 11:13 AM

Fred Lohr | Default

Ed and Marylou Congrats on your new baby!!! can't wait to see it.

very happy for you

04-27-2009, 01:03 PM

Mike | Default

Well they said it all..! Congrats, Very to see another flying. Many more flights.

04-28-2009, 06:51 AM

keithw | Default

Hi Ed. Congratulations on that First Flight Milestone. I am so happy for you and Mary Lou. 80CC is very happy also for Seawinds love company on the Ramps. Keith Walljasper

04-28-2009, 08:27 AM

Planemakers | Default

Congats Ed. Looking forward to seeing you at a Fly-In soon.

John J

04-28-2009, 12:01 PM

rwolf | Default

Congrats Ed. I look forward to seeing your bird.

Dick Wolf

04-28-2009, 10:18 PM

jar59nh | Default

Yes, there is hope for the rest of us ....

Congrats Ed & Mary Lou!! What a great accomplishment. I can't wait to see it live. Do you have any pictures you could share with us. I heard from Russ it was a most amazing experience.

Let's have a Splash-In soon so we can all get a close look at your new baby. News travels fast in the aviation world, I heard about your first flight from my fellow EAA Chapter members in NH.

Happy Flying,

John Ricciotti

04-29-2009, 09:05 AM

Tony Jurcan | Default


Congratulations, Your perseverance is inspiring to us still building.

Mike |Default

Do we know the weight of your new addition...?

05-02-2009, 08:05 PM

Ed Lynch | Default N30EL weight

My empty weight, as I decided to record it, includes chocks, tiedowns (the claw),mooring pins, paddle and boat hook; and came in at 2600#. No upholstery yet, just two front seats.

05-02-2009, 08:38 PM

Ed Lynch | Default Pictures of N30EL's first and second flights available

A good friend and neighbor has taken some nice photos of my Seawind's first and second flights, and posted them on his website- if it asks for a password it is N30EL If I had e-mail addresses for those who would like to see the pix I could send them from the site. Ed

05-02-2009, 08:48 PM

Ed Lynch | Default Pictures

John, I posted a reply about a friend's website having pictures of my first and second flights on it, but what I'd really like to do is send them to you from the site. I need your e-mail address . Ed

05-03-2009, 09:43 AM

Mike | Default

Nice picts ED.. What happened to the other main...?

John, do you have picts of all the members planes...?

05-03-2009, 01:28 PM

Ed Lynch | Default Missing main gear.

Mike, the gear goes up and down in random sequence. It does its own thing in whatever order it pleases. From initial observations, the nose wheel seems to win the race up or down most of the time, followed one at a time by the mains. Most of this would normally go unnoticed, but my eagle eye neighbor caught it on film. Cycle time is about 6 seconds. I do have the recommended restrictor orfices in the main gear down lines. Ed

06-14-2009, 02:17 PM

bcarlson | Default Congratulations... & Thank you.

Greetings Ed. You continue to be an inspiration to us all. I hope it is OK for me to place your photos here. I have been looking at them often. Fly safe and thanks again.



06-14-2009, 08:11 PM

Fred Lohr | Default

wahhooo. great to have one of the seawind faithful up and flying. congrata ed and marylou

06-15-2009, 06:18 PM

rwolf | Default Dick Wolf

Great looking cowling (as well as the rest of the plane), Ed. Do you have an IO 540? With rear induction system? If so, I'm curious about how you ran the duct to it. We had a major challenge with that aspect of mine. Congrats again and look forward to seeing you.


05-22-2009, 03:13 PM

Mike | THIS has to give you a warm fuzzy feeling

I think the dog is taking the video.
New pilot that Jack was with recently in RI.

Promotional video, kit build in a few days..?

05-03-2009, 01:00 AM

seawally | Denied Access

I have a Rant that has to be released. After trying to vote on the Splash-In poll,I was denied because "a security token was invalid", and told to "inform the administrator". I was then denied access to the administrator because, you guessed it, "a security token was invalid"!

Does this happen to anyone else? Is it because I don't always log out? I am happily greeted every time I go to the site.

I'm not looking for smiley faces, I'm looking for information and convenience. Does everyone enjoy having to scroll up 1/3 to 1/2 of EVERY page they want to view? After John categorized all the posts, I sure like the old ISPA site better than the Forum! That feels better -- Wally Weller

05-03-2009, 09:32 AM

Mike | Default


Originally Posted by seawally View Post

I have a Rant that has to be released. After trying to vote on the Splash-In poll,I was denied because "a security token was invalid", and told to "inform the administrator". I was then denied access to the administrator because, you guessed it, "a security token was invalid"!

Does this happen to anyone else? Is it because I don't always log out? I am happily greeted every time I go to the site.

I'm not looking for smiley faces, I'm looking for information and convenience. Does everyone enjoy having to scroll up 1/3 to 1/2 of EVERY page they want to view? After John categorized all the posts, I sure like the old ISPA site better than the Forum! That feels better -- Wally Weller

Hi Wally,

There have been 9 votes and 48 people that have viewed the poll to date. We currently have over 50 + users that are signing in without any problems. This is what I would expect to see in relation to the 8-10 logins/day.

I check the forum at least once a day for problems. The invalid "security token" is an issue with your new mac set-up. Please check you security settings as they may need to be lowered. Unfortunately, all computer set-ups are different.

I did notice that you had two user names with the same email address; Wally and seawally. I deleted "Wally", so log in under seawally; although this should not have had any relevance to the problem you are seeing. I signed in under your username and password and DID NOT have any problems with the site or the poll. All functions worked well for me by simply logging in. After you are done, you should log out although the software is configured to log you out after 30 min. of inactivity.

"Does everyone enjoy having to scroll up 1/3 to 1/2 of EVERY page they want to view?".... If you are referring to the seawind picture, then yes, even I have to scroll down a little to get to all the categories. Even if the picture wasn’t there you would still have to scroll down to get to the last categories.

The old board was just that "Old". What you didn't see is the time it took to move the posts to categorize them. The old board was labor intensive.

Getting use to the forum is really an easy process. There are many shortcuts you can use to get to the meat of the posts. When you sign on if you click on "NEW POSTS" you will be able to go directly to the new posts.

I am sorry you are having problems and I am more than happy to walk anyone thru the problems to the best of my ability. The forum layout and operation; no problem..........Configuring your computers...not that good.

I want to make this as easy as possible for all and you suggestions are always welcome. Let’s look forward.....

05-04-2009, 06:09 PM

tthunne | Default Forum

I'm with Wally, with me I think it's the old fart, new tricks thing !


05-04-2009, 08:09 PM

Mike | Default

Wally has a new mac......and I don't know what all his settings need to be to view the poll. He seems to be doing well otherwise.

Hell, my kids set up my TV remotes.....

TT if you need some help, give me your phone number and I will call you.....


05-05-2009, 02:58 PM

seawally | My rant


I don't have a Mac, and I just lowered my security level for cookies. I'll let you know if that solved my problem. Wally

05-05-2009, 04:48 PM

Mike | Default

Hummm, I thought you said you got a new mac, wonder who it was...?

05-05-2009, 09:25 PM

tthunne | Default


Originally Posted by Mike View Post

Wally has a new mac......and I don't know what all his settings need to be to view the poll. He seems to be doing well otherwise.

Hell, my kids set up my TV remotes.....

TT if you need some help, give me your phone number and I will call you.....



What I need is a new attitude or kids - I guess attitude would be easier. When ever my 7 year old god son is around I have him help me out !


05-06-2009, 05:22 AM

Mike | Default


I know what you are saying. When this forum was opened I knew there would be some opposition. Anything new has opposition, however, over the long run this is/will be much better. Once you get the hang of it and see what can be will like it..!

I haven't really started to set this forum up yet. The main page will start to change in a few more months. I want the dust to settle first.

PS - Kids don't come with handbooks, go with the attitude..!

05-10-2009, 10:57 AM

bcarlson | Default Old and New...

Greetings Wally, Tom, Mike, and other Seawind friends. First of all, having been a former ISPA site editor I would like to thank Mike, John and others who keep this site going. I applaud the extensive amount of effort that setting up this new forum has required.

Having said that, and seeing the aspects of setting up a new forum, I agree with the comments in this thread and thank Wally for bringing it up. I think it is something that needs discussion.

While I agree that the old forum is well… “old,” I think it had some very good features. Perhaps its management would have been easier if rather than trying to break it down into so many categories we could have broken it down into just a current page and an archive page. As it stood, it was easier for users to simply scroll through the posts and determine the content by looking at all of the titles on just one page without so many keystrokes or mouse clicks for navigation.

The new forum is cumbersome and is requiring a lot of adjustment by all of us. It seems a little strange to me, but I find myself looking in on the old forum from time to time and hoping someone has posted there. I also refer to the old forum often to find information that has accumulated there over the years. There is still a huge wealth of builder information there that can be found nowhere else; so I think it is imperative that we do whatever is necessary to keep it online as long as there are people still building the kit version of the Seawind.

I also believe that there are some reasons why we really have no choice but to update and move to this new forum. The main reason is that the database for the old one was getting quite large and susceptible to file corruption. Even before turning the site over to John we had had some problems with the very early posts and lost some of them.

I am hoping that as people get used to this new forum and the dust settles (as Mike mentioned) we can perhaps make some improvements that will make this forum a little better. One thing that might help is to add the capability to expand all posts, or make it possible to view all posts in a way similar to the old forum. I’m sure that Mike has some other ideas for improvement.

It has taken some time, but I have seen some improvement in the use of the new forum and I think most of us are adjusting. Even so, I know most of us are having growing pains. All I can hope is that we can all “hang-in” and help with the improvement by making suggestions and keeping the lines of communication open. BC

05-10-2009, 03:43 PM

Mike | Default


Originally Posted by bcarlson View Post

Greetings Wally, Tom, Mike, and other Seawind friends. First of all, having been a former ISPA site editor I would like to thank Mike, John and others who keep this site going. I applaud the extensive amount of effort that setting up this new forum has required.

Having said that, and seeing the aspects of setting up a new forum, I agree with the comments in this thread and thank Wally for bringing it up. I think it is something that needs discussion.

While I agree that the old forum is well… “old,” I think it had some very good features. Perhaps its management would have been easier if rather than trying to break it down into so many categories we could have broken it down into just a current page and an archive page. As it stood, it was easier for users to simply scroll through the posts and determine the content by looking at all of the titles on just one page without so many keystrokes or mouse clicks for navigation.

The new forum is cumbersome and is requiring a lot of adjustment by all of us. It seems a little strange to me, but I find myself looking in on the old forum from time to time and hoping someone has posted there. I also refer to the old forum often to find information that has accumulated there over the years. There is still a huge wealth of builder information there that can be found nowhere else; so I think it is imperative that we do whatever is necessary to keep it online as long as there are people still building the kit version of the Seawind.

I also believe that there are some reasons why we really have no choice but to update and move to this new forum. The main reason is that the database for the old one was getting quite large and susceptible to file corruption. Even before turning the site over to John we had had some problems with the very early posts and lost some of them.

I am hoping that as people get used to this new forum and the dust settles (as Mike mentioned) we can perhaps make some improvements that will make this forum a little better. One thing that might help is to add the capability to expand all posts, or make it possible to view all posts in a way similar to the old forum. I’m sure that Mike has some other ideas for improvement.

It has taken some time, but I have seen some improvement in the use of the new forum and I think most of us are adjusting. Even so, I know most of us are having growing pains. All I can hope is that we can all “hang-in” and help with the improvement by making suggestions and keeping the lines of communication open. BC

Hi Brent,

It's good to see more and more people using the forum.

With "New" there is always a learning curve. This forum represents the latest in this type of communication and is of course more cumbersome for some. I have been keeping in touch with those that have needed some help crossing over and will remain available to all.

During the conversion, I had many conversations with the current web host regarding the old board. It turns out that the old board was created by in house software people(s) and is no longer supported by the creators of the software. Eventually the board would have had to be converted to a new forum.

The old board let people jump posts making it very difficult to follow a conversation. The old board did not have an active search feature. The old board did not allow editing of posts (spelling or content)...............

When all is said and done; all the posts on the old board will be transferred to this new forum. Then searching will be a dream. The new forum uses the SQL database which is a much more stable configuration.

The old board has been backed up to my computer.

ALL suggestions are welcome!! One of the best features of this forum software is the fact that it is supported by thousands of people. If someone comes up with an a rotating banner with pictures of the members seawinds or a way to advertise to defray costs.....then I can go to a site that has thousands of plugins to find the best software for that purpose. Plugins allow me to add software to the forum that will accomplish the task at no extra charge.

Over time and some perseverance, this forum will shine.

PS - Don't forget to click on "NEW POSTS" when you sign on. This will give you all the new posts since you last signed on......

Don't forget to check for multiple pages in a 1 of 3, page 2 of 3, page 3 of 3

05-10-2009, 03:52 PM

Mike | Default

Wally I noticed you are signed in.......What are the results of our phone conversation...??????

05-10-2009, 06:46 PM

seawally | Default


Originally Posted by Mike View Post

Wally I noticed you are signed in.......What are the results of our phone conversation...??????


I used the computer of a very savvy neighbor, and it seemed to work fine! He told me to click TOOLS, INTERNET OPTIONS, Browser history-delete, Temporary Internet Files - Delete files, and now I seem to have access to everything!!! I will advise if not, and hopefully this will help anyone who is having a similar problem. Thanks for your efforts. Wally W.

05-10-2009, 06:49 PM

Mike | Default


Originally Posted by seawally View Post


I used the computer of a very savvy neighbor, and it seemed to work fine! He told me to click TOOLS, INTERNET OPTIONS, Browser history-delete, Temporary Internet Files - Delete files, and now I seem to have access to everything!!! I will advise if not, and hopefully this will help anyone who is having a similar problem. Thanks for your efforts. Wally W.

Great to hear all is fine.......

Wally seem to have log in problems, once he logged in, the next page would log him out. Something was conflicting with the auto log on (remember me).

05-11-2009, 06:14 PM

Mike | Default

For those who don't get out much, check out the format of the following sites and take notice of the user counts.....

Threads: 31,134, Posts: 281,291, Members: 9,985

At any given time there are more than 100 users viewing.

Scroll all the way down to the bottom of the main page to see all the possibilties....

Threads: 4,437, Posts: 54,834, Members: 1,703

Basic forum....

I like what they did with the flying planes..!!

08-12-2008, 04:21 AM

Fred Lohr | 3400 Seawind Investors

This is just to get people thinking, but I read only the preliminary information from Dick Silva on the investment needed to get the certified seawind back on track. I could be interested in helping out a little, risking a bit of money on this, but the problem is I just don't have 150,000$ which is the minimal investment under the rules of the Canadian SEC. I am told that there is nothing in the rules to prevent an entity composed of several individuals from putting up the 150 K. So I am just wondering if there are some like minded Builders who might see the benefit in being partners in owning a share. I know nothing about the structure of such things, partnerships, LLC's or whatever. Each individual would have to sign a release so Seawind can send you the details so I suggest that you to do that if you might be interested. I will say that over the years, I have invested in much worse ideas than the Seawind. If you know anything about this sort of thing, send me an email.

05-05-2009, 02:34 PM

seawally | test

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04-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Tom Saccio | Seawind back in business

I just received the Spring news letter from Seawind. I says that All the money is in place and they will be up and running by the beginning of May. The letter says that they started to bring back their employees. Congratulations to Dick Silva who is the most tenacious person I know. You could read the news letter @

04-15-2009, 10:46 AM

Jack Ardoyno | Welcome, Guillaume!

Greetings, Seawinders!

I want to introduce an outstanding addition to the ranks of enthusiastic Seawind pilots/owners.

Guillaume De Ramel recently purchased N140SW from Geoff Jones in Connecticut. I have just returned from five fun days of working and flying with Guillaume in Newport, RI, Guillaume's home base.

Guillaume flew exceptionally well and has a great performing aircraft in N140SW. (I am trying to encourage him to get a CFI and do some Seawind training).

Newport (and environs) is a beautiful part of the country and very interesting water flying area.

Guillaume has promised to bring N140SW to our next Splash-in where you will be able to meet him in person.

I am attaching a photo of Guillaume and son Charlie.

Please welcome Guillaume De Ramel!!

04-15-2009, 06:03 PM

Mike | Default

Welcome, good to see the ranks are growing.......keep it going....

L@@K forward to meeting you.

04-16-2009, 07:35 AM

gderamel | Default

Looking forward to meeting everyone! When's the next splash-in?

04-16-2009, 06:44 PM

Mike | Default

Check the EVENTS category.......


Search on splash in

04-14-2009, 06:40 PM

gderamel | Training: Jack Ardoyno

Anyone who's about to start flying (for the first time) their Seawind or isn't quite comfortable on land or water I HIGHLY RECOMMEND contacting JACK ARDOYNO to get trained. Trust me - you'll get your money's worth. You couldn't find a more pleasant, friendly and certainly knowledgeable person than Jack.

He flew in Friday night into Rhode Island (Newport's my base) and left this afternoon (Tuesday). We spent most of Saturday reconfiguring things on the plane: disabled the flaperons, removed the fuel check-valves, hot wired the bilge pump, and some other stuff. Changes, neither my A&P or me would have ever known to make on our own, but changes, I now realize are ESSENTIAL to safe Seawind operations.

We spent ALL day Sunday and ALL day Monday doing a lot of touch and goes - mostly trying to break my habit of flaring on landings. Did a few simulated engine outs, which were eye opening (all about energy preservation). The water operations were nothing like what I had anticipated. I heard about the dreaded Seawind porpoise, but with his patient and courageous oversight we licked those too!

It's a fantastic aircraft: in the air AND on the water. It's sad that its got such a dark cloud above it. In my experience - albeit limited - it doesn't deserve any bad stigma. It's my hope that anyone reading this post who's been on the fence about getting in the water or intimidated by the plane - CALL or EMAIL JACK!!

Mobile 612 940-6425
Office 715 634-2984

I had approximately 5 hours in a Piper Super Cub on floats (12 years ago) and ZERO in Seawinds, but today I'm comfortable and safe on both LAND and WATER. Zero to hero with Jack!

2009 Splash-In anyone!


04-15-2009, 06:10 PM

Mike | Default

"Mostly trying to break my habit of flaring on landings"......yea I got hell too

"Did a few simulated engine outs, which were eye opening".......Jack opened my eyes also.....1,200 ft, yea right.

I need to get time in the water this summer....!

I am happy to see everything worked out ok, Jack does a great job....!

03-04-2009, 03:45 PM

jar59nh | Seawind start-up, thanks to Geoffrey Jones for the info....


Before I tell you the good news, I have a number of people to thank and to pay tribute to.

First to the order holder/investors: without you we could never have considered resuming the project. It was your confidence in us when the future was most bleak that inspired us not to give up. Having such dedicated customers who were ready to step up and make a major investment in the project was the key to attracting professional investors from the financial community who have decided to make the final major investment in the Seawind project.

As you know, we have been very transparent about events and our need for investor funding. Our customer/investors have committed to providing almost half of the needed funds to resume the project and to complete the remainder of the certification effort. That spurred us on to seek other investors for the remaining certification funds.

I also must thank the order holders who stayed with the program, especially during these tumultuous times when fuel prices went out of sight only to plummet as an economic roller coaster frightened the world. Your optimism and confidence in the company and the future impressed the financial community in these uncertain times.

Finally, to our newsletter recipients, from whom we received many poignant letters in our darkest days after the test pilot seemingly decided to crash the test aircraft. I want to thank you for your letters of sympathy and encouragement. Some of the most heartfelt letters came from readers who admitted they will never be able to own a Seawind but who shared our devastation and disappointment.

You are all responsible for the good news we are pleased to announce.


We have just entered into an agreement with a group of investors who will provide the remaining half of the funds needed to resume operations and complete certification. They have proposed to restructure the company and to take it public on the “over the counter” (OTC) market without affecting the agreements and rights of the customer/investors. There are many advantages to our investors and to the Company in being a publicly traded company. For example, we will require production ramp-up funding, which would be easier to obtain if needed.


In addition to the funding agreement, we have signed a consulting agreement with the manager of the group to provide financial services and to manage the OTC stock sales. This will free me up to concentrate my efforts on the certification and production. I don’t mind telling you that after a year and a half of trying to raise money, IT IS NOT MY STRONG SUIT. I welcome the relief.


Coincidentally, we have received a “letter of intent” from an Asian company. I met with their representative last week. They are currently in the aircraft modification and service business and wish to be a Sales and Service Center for Seawind in China. They would also serve as a major delivery location for the surrounding territories. They will receive the aircraft with the wings removed after factory flight check-out and will reassemble the Seawind for customer delivery.

We are in ongoing negotiations. They will provide the production ramp-up funding needed to:

~ duplicate assembly fixtures, giving us the capability to increase production capacity from 20 to 60 Seawinds per year. It will put us in a strong position to increase our production rate in the future when the demand will rise to one Seawind per day.

~ complete flight testing of IFR, autopilot, and glass cockpit options.

~ implement additional engine options, i.e., diesel, turbo-charged, FADEC or other promising power plants.

~ resume and accelerate marketing and advertising.

In the event of any glitches, we now have two other alternatives, i.e., the OTC market or bank loans.

This was a long time coming, and it is a great relief that we can now look forward to delivering Seawinds as promised.

To you as an order holder, these events not only mean you will be getting your Seawind but also mean we will be adequately funded to move along at a more rapid pace than in the past. We won’t have to keep deferring expenditures and weighing every purchase decision.

We have lost a number of order holders, which means your production position will move toward the beginning of the line. Obviously, the customer/investors will have first choice. In a month or two, we will notify you of your new position.


Richard Silva



P. O. Box 1041

Kimberton, PA 19442 USA

Tel: 610-384-7000 Fax: 610-384-7066

03-05-2009, 10:56 AM

Tony Jurcan | Good News

Good news. A outstanding accomplishment by Dick Silva.

03-06-2009, 08:06 AM

Mike | Default

Finally, some good news. I hope all goes well..!!

02-11-2009, 10:59 AM

Planemakers | Planemakers, Inc. and Pillar Point Avionics

Hi Guys,

We just wanted to let you know that Chris and I and Chris's wife Claudia have bought the assets of Pillar Point Avionics and should be in production in a few weeks. Pillar Point products will be available under a semi-new name, Pillar Point Electronics, Inc. We have a web page too.

If you have any questions feel free to ask.

Have a great day,

John J

02-11-2009, 09:35 PM

tthunne | Pillar Point purchase


You will be hearing from me - I need some indicators.


02-08-2009, 10:22 PM

krisgmil | Long term forecast

Hello everyone. Just wanted to get some opinions on the long term outlook for the Seawind- seems like a popular discussion right now in many other areas given our financial situation in Canada and the United States. I have been following the Seawind progress for about 7-10 yrs now but due to financial obligations and work haven't been able to make the plunge yet. I had the pleasure of visiting Mike in Regina over New Years and looked at his beautiful airplane that George Osborne did an amazing job with and this furthered my excitement about the options this plane allows that nothing else even comes close. However, I am now fast approaching a position that I can buy one and a few thoughts have been running through my head.

As the kit isn't being made anymore and the state of the certified Seawind seems to be still in a very dark place, maybe even more in the last few months with investors fleeing everything in every market, what will happen 10-15 yrs down the line if the certified version doesn't take flight and the kit is no longer available? We have seen some companies already offer up the last of their inventory for certain parts and if the certified version doesn't fly I am sure many other companies would follow suit. I say this not to be a pessimist as I love the plane and have had many a dream of owning one but it is a big investment. There have been many a car in the past that was a hit early on and, probably would have done well except for circumstances beyond the companies control, that ended up a collectors item that people couldn't really drive because parts couldn't be found anymore. With a plane it gets even more complicated- more specialized parts, very few mechanics or help with problems, and instructors that will get fewer and fewer.

I follow a few other blogs in other areas that promote discussion like this so I hope I am not offending anyone. Just want to hear people's opinions about this. As well- more pictures of people flying and their experiences would be nice too!


Kris Milbrandt

Calgary, Alberta, Canada

02-09-2009, 08:16 PM

tthunne | Long term outlook


Even with a simple shop most of the mechanical parts of the Seawind can be easily reproduced. The hydraulic system could be purchased and replaced relatively easily. An hydraulic cylinder shop can reproduce the oleos' albeit relatively expensively but still within reason, the landing gear can also be reproduced relatively reasonably.

There was recently a question about the availability of a canopy and I know of no ready source for that item. The same is true for wings. That being said, depending on how determined one is I would expect that even those items could be duplicated with some difficulty. For instance, with some significant effort I believe I could reproduce a canopy myself. It would be a hell of a job with the greatest expenditure being time and effort, the same is true for a wing. Neither task is comfortably contemplated but they are well within the bounds of realistic effort if one is so determined.

The bottom line for me is that I feel relatively confident that I can, I should say could, keep my Seawind flying if I ever get the thing in the air. At this point I feel like Sisyphus in the process but if I keep at it maybe the Gods will relent, have pity and the boulder will stay on top of the hill and I can eventually fly away.

01-15-2009, 08:21 PM

Alain | Default New seawind is born in canada

I'm please to annonce that my friend Alain Marquis from La Sarre Quebec canada did is first flight last fall. is got almost 10 hr and this bird fly very well. The next flight will be in spring due to the weather we had last night

-40C or -40F that cold. so i will keep you inform about that new seawind because i gona be the translator for him (he is a good french guy!!!) and for me i'm still working on my bird....


01-19-2009, 07:25 AM

Mike | Default

Congrats.....and many more happy flights

01-19-2009, 09:34 PM

Russ Kotlarek | Building

More great news..... always wonderful to hear another Seawind takes flight..... Some day who knows We may join that group

Best of luck in spring !!!


12-25-2008, 08:45 AM

Mike Flying, 6th Editor | Default Happy Holidays

I wish all a very happy and healthy holiday.

Have a safe and happy new year

12-19-2008, 02:31 PM

Planemakers | Default N8UU First Flight

Hi Folks,

Lynn Swann flew N8UU for the first time last Sunday the 14th of December. Congradulations Lynn!!!! He flew for an hour on Sunday and a few more times during the week. He had to go back home for a few weeks to deal with all the snow but he'll be back in January to fly off his time and take her home.

Be well and have a great weekend!!!

John J

11-22-2008, 09:44 PM

Tom Saccio | Default Navigating this site

This is not easy. I guess if I were Mike it would be no problem. It's going to take some getting used to. I'll keep plugging away. Nice job Mike. I think!!

11-22-2008, 11:01 PM

Mike | Default I am here to help....

Hi Tom,

Yep it is different than the other one. Hey you got this far, thats good. Posting can be fun.

This format offers soooooo much more. It's like anything, there will be a slight learning curve. Check out the getting started post.

I usally sign on and click on "New Posts", then look thru the new posts.

If anyone wishes, I will walk you through on the phone (I have free long distance calling) .....just email me with your phone number.

Night time is the best time for phone stuff.

Mike | Default Posting Directly Into The Category

With the old board, once you posted into the "General Discussion" category, John had to move the post into the proper category.

You can now post directly into the caregory of your choice. Try to pick the "Best" category for your thread (post).

When you post you don't have to use HTML code for new paragraphs. Just hit the "Enter Key" and start your new paragraph.

Also when you are typing your thread (post), you can add smiles by clicking once on them and the smile will be inserted in the sentence.

Also notice after you post you can now "Edit" your post.

11-11-2008, 05:23 AM

mike reibling | Default 3480 New seawind owner - Mike Reibling

Hello, my name is Mike Reibling from Regina Sask Canada and in July 2008 my wife Kristle and I purchased a SeaWind from the estate of the late George Osborne. I wanted to take this opportunity to introduce myself to the group and share a little bit about myself. I have spent the last 30 years in high purity water treatment and have hobbies of Hang Gliding and building an RV6A which looks like it may not get finished now. I would like to start by saying thanks to a few people who helped me along with my decision to purchase a SeaWind. Thank you to Len Carlson for showing me his aircraft back in the 1990's which started my dream of owning my own. Also, for more recently taking me on a flight which confirmed my decision to buy. A big thank you to Jack Ardoyno for all his first class training and Lyndia Ardoyno for her patience and hospitality. And more recently another big thanks to John at Plane Makers for his help in pointing me in the right direction for parts. Since July I have had the opportunity to get over 80 hours on the plane and in the last 2 weeks I was able to get started on water landings. So far the Seawind has exceeded all my expectations. My wife and I look forward to meeting all of you and hope to travel and share many adventures with you. Mike & Kristle Reibling 306-539-3313

11-11-2008, 05:24 AM

Mike | Default 3482 Welcome

Hi Mike,

Let me be the 1st to say Welcome and hope to meet you at the next splash-in.

Safe Flying

11-12-2008, 05:28 AM

Tom Saccio | Default 3485 Welcome

Welcome aboard Mike. I know Georges plane very well and you got one of the best in the fleet. Hope to meet you at one of the Splash-ins. If you ever get down to North Carolina You got a place to stay. Tom Saccio

09-11-2008, 05:11 AM

3428 Interview with Dick Silva | Tom Saccio

There is an interview with Dick Silva on Avweb. If you're interested go to and scroll down to Seawind. Tom Saccio

09-20-2008, 05:13 AM | BudG

The SEAWIND FLYER FOR FALL 2008 outlines the current effort. WISH HIM WELL

09-05-2008, 02:24 AM

3416 Dues | Duane White

I was hoping some would mention when the dues are due. I'm new at this.

09-06-2008, 02:26 AM

CROW | Junior Member

Membership was due on September 1st;$26; it's listed on our home page - click on the "membership link" at the top, it will give you instructions on how to make payments.

05-06-2008, 02:41 AM

Default 3286 Builders Get Your Serial Numbers Now | jar59nh

HI All,

Heading out the door today for a trip and I received a letter from SNA in Kimberton, PA. Dick would like me to let you know that you should fax or mail a request to him for your bill of sale and serial number.

The fax number is (610) 933-3335 and the address is:

S.N.A., Inc

P.O. Box 607

Kimberton, PA 19442

There is also a note that "This is for owners who have an original contract or re-sales who filled out the transfer papers. "

I would highly recommend that everyone do this quickly, my self included!.

Happy building, John

05-01-2008, 02:58 AM

3368 Seawind Certification Status | rwolf

Check the website for a status update.

05-01-2008, 02:58 AM

3274 Manuals - Updates 3280 | Mike

The manuals I have have not been updated since 2000. Does anyone have update between 2000 and now...? Thanks


Posted by Tom Thunnell on May 03, 2008 at 22:18:10:

In Reply to: Manuals - Updates posted by mike ski on May 01, 2008 at 16:58:15:

Mike: I have the last kit sold so I may have all of the updates. Tell me what you need. TT